He meant millions of Law Breaking Illegal Invaders.
Posted on 11/15/2016 11:26:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Can convicts do the same?
Can anyone say .....oxymoron?
Undocumented immigrants entered this nation "illegally" are not "undocumented immigrants". They are criminals. They are entitled to deportation or jail.
If someone enters a home without being invited, they are trespassing and liable to be shot. The same holds true with people entering our country illegally. They are criminal trespassers.
On this issue, I do have compassion for those brought here as young children when they had no control and have not lived in their home country for many years. I suggest that we consider helping them but only if we deport the parents that caused the situation.
“It has been used a number of times in American history (especially after the Civil War). Individuals don’t need to be individually named or charged.”
In fact, amnesty and pardon to Confederate soldiers after the Civil War required that many had to make personal and individual requests for amnesty. They also needed to swear fealty to the United States and explain their actions before the war commenced and their actions during the war.
Amnesty Under Johnson
wnc.omeka.chass.ncsu.edu/exhibits/show/confederateamnesty/amnestyjohnson
Thanks for the info.
Okay, okay, two minutes instead of one.
One does not have to be charged before one is pardoned, but a group pardon would be on shakier ground
The whole thing is moot anyway, because he could pardon for all crime committed up to this instant, but not for the crime of being here illegally they would commit one instant later.
Hand written in ancient Sanskrit with a quill and inkwell.
I don’t believe the Prez can pardon only US citizens, but your other two points are totally correct.
My favorite element in this is, whether charged and/or convinced or not, an acceptance of a parson is an implicit admission of guilt; See Burdick v. U.S.
As did Carter for the Vietnam Draft Dodgers, but I have question as to whether an “amnesty” of a group, a decision to nol pros, is in fact a pardon.
A parson cannot be reversed, but amnesty may be reversible.
Back to my law books tonight.
Amnesty is frequently used to describe legislation and executive orders (to suspend prosecution) that can be reversed. However, there is also an official Presidential pardon applied to a group that is also known as amnesty.
I’m not sure if the terminology changes a bit and the term ‘clemency’ is used, but it certain that there is amnesty (by whatever name) that carries the full status of pardon as in the Ex Parte Garland ruling.
He meant millions of Law Breaking Illegal Invaders.
All I know is that the pardon/amnesty/forgiveness issues will be serious s**t storms in the next 65 days.
Someone joked “Will be see them traded on some new Internet Exchange?”
Some of my former partners are already planning “pardon parties” on the night of January 19 so they can all kibitz about who got walking papers and who did not.
A friend still in DC at another firm is circulating a paper tonight entitled “Obama’s Last Three Outrages.”
One will be the pardons, another giving Guantanamo back to the Cubans.... and everyone is trying to guess what #3 will be.
Is he the World King all of a sudden, where he can grant pardons to any citizen of any nation on the globe?
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