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Hillary Clinton being pushed to challenge election results in 3 states
Hotair ^ | 11/23/2016 | John Sexton

Posted on 11/23/2016 10:20:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind

New York magazine is reporting that a group of lawyers and computer scientists is urging Hillary Clinton to challenge the election results in 3 swing states: Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked…

Last Thursday, the activists held a conference call with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case, according to a source briefed on the call. The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.

According to the story, the academics don’t have any evidence of hacking by any foreign government at this point, just this statistical oddity involving electronic-voting machines. Of course there could be other things that account for the difference in voting patters but since we’re not privy to any of the methodology used to generate these results it’s impossible to judge the quality of the work.

Prior to the election the FBI revealed that foreign hackers had made their way into election systems in at least two states. A Yahoo News story from August reported, “six states and parts of four others (including large swaths of Pennsylvania, a crucial swing state in this year’s race) are more vulnerable because they rely on paperless touchscreen voting, known as DREs or Direct-Recording Electronic voting machines, for which there are no paper ballot backups.”

According to Ballotpedia, Wisconsin uses a mix of paper ballots and Direct-Recording Electronic machines with a paper back-up. That means the electronic results could be tested against the paper back-up. Michigan uses paper ballots so it’s not clear there is a DRE issue in that state. Clinton would need to win all three states in order to overturn the election, though the New York piece points out that this is somewhat complicated by Democratic efforts to round up faithless electors.

The attempt to overturn the results is running out of time. New York reports, “the deadline in Wisconsin to file for a recount is Friday; in Pennsylvania, it’s Monday; and Michigan is next Wednesday.”

This story just went up a short while ago but already it is getting some pushback:

To follow: some *very* quick analysis which suggests the claim here of rigged results in Wisconsin is probably BS: https://t.co/SYlE76bnmQ

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 23, 2016

Run a regression on Wisc. counties with >=50K people, and you find that Clinton improved more in counties with only paper ballots. HOWEVER: pic.twitter.com/4swuU70NaY

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 23, 2016

…the effect COMPLETELY DISAPPEARS once you control for race and education levels, the key factors in predicting vote shifts this year. pic.twitter.com/NYOINx9lEz

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 23, 2016

Maybe a more complicated analysis would reveal something, but usually bad news when a finding can't survive a basic sanity check like this.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 23, 2016



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016electionrecount; electoralvotes; hillary
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1 posted on 11/23/2016 10:20:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ooh. A group of lawyers and computer scientists. They’ll get something done, I’m sure.


2 posted on 11/23/2016 10:22:47 AM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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To: SeekAndFind

Won’t happen. Self preservation dictates that she keep a low profile.


3 posted on 11/23/2016 10:23:00 AM PST by glorgau
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh brother. These people need psychological help.


4 posted on 11/23/2016 10:23:10 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: SeekAndFind

Must mean they have figured out how to manufacture the votes they need in those three states. Also, they have only conjecture and no facts, but want to push the idea of an illegitimate election. Based on their “reasoning” we don’t need actual elections but can rely on polls done by the media and poll companies.


5 posted on 11/23/2016 10:23:58 AM PST by falcon99
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To: SeekAndFind

I feel bad for Nate Silver.

After giving Trump a 0.8% chance of winning the combination of PA, MI and WI and getting screamed at by Hillary people by being too biased against her....now he says Trump didn’t cheat.

He is about to feel the full wrath of the loony left—for real this time!


6 posted on 11/23/2016 10:23:58 AM PST by cgbg (Pedophiles--the siren is wailing--incoming!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Mr. Trump, will you accept the results of the election?”

Never asked SHrillary.


7 posted on 11/23/2016 10:24:12 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: SeekAndFind

... perhaps the opposite, maybe there was mischief in the “paper ballots and optical scanners.”


8 posted on 11/23/2016 10:25:29 AM PST by nightmarewhileawake
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To: SeekAndFind

New Report Prompts Call for Democrats to Halt Transfer of Power to Trump Before Dec. 13 Deadline
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/3497473/posts


9 posted on 11/23/2016 10:25:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Steely Tom

Anybody pushing Hillary will need to improve his upper body strength.


10 posted on 11/23/2016 10:27:16 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We have to fight them and fight them and fight them and...


11 posted on 11/23/2016 10:27:56 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: falcon99

Exactly right. Another attempt to try and deligitimize the election. It’s standard practice of Leftists repeated over and over. Take something clear as day, black and white and inject confusion and doubt and cause the weak among us to go wobbly and create momentum out of absolutely nothing.


12 posted on 11/23/2016 10:28:02 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: glorgau

I agree. I would keep a low profile too with all the Clinton Foundation, pedeofile, and confidential emails on a private server items.


13 posted on 11/23/2016 10:28:39 AM PST by moviefan8
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To: SeekAndFind

She was all shocked and horrified that Trump wasn’t going to accept the results. What a hypocrite.


14 posted on 11/23/2016 10:28:42 AM PST by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: SeekAndFind

If they try this crap, I think it increases the odds of Trump giving her legal grief.


15 posted on 11/23/2016 10:28:59 AM PST by doug from upland (time to bring down the Clinton money laundering foundation)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the machines were hacked, it was to favor the democrats.

These idiots could be opening a can of worms. Unless they can figure a way to make it work for them, the party machines will shrink from such an effort.


16 posted on 11/23/2016 10:29:01 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SeekAndFind

These are the same liberals that were laughing and scoffing at suggestions of vote fraud just three weeks ago.


17 posted on 11/23/2016 10:29:16 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Obadiah

Must be one of them “late term abortion/election” things. She conceded, move on.


18 posted on 11/23/2016 10:29:42 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too bad Chris Wallace didn’t ask Hellary if SHE would accept the results of the election.


19 posted on 11/23/2016 10:30:57 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: nightmarewhileawake

Are they going to discount the 3 million illegals votes that obozo told them to do?


20 posted on 11/23/2016 10:31:28 AM PST by oldasrocks (rump)
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