It is a problem; isn't it...
Posted on 12/01/2016 1:04:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Again, nonsense. Tax breaks to businesses cannot “cost the citizenry anything” because it isn’t the citizenry’s money. It certainly isn’t the state’s money, but philosophy aside, the math doesn’t support your argument. The loss of jobs caused by over taxation and over regulation deprive the tax base of far more revenue. I’ll trade a dollar for ten, and the state should too.
No; it is NOT 'silly'!
Re-defining things today is an art form; done by those who wish to mask the TRUE nature of that being re-defined.
Undocumented workers? Illegal aliens?
No; border invaders.
Alternate lifestyle? LGBT 'rights'?
No; SIN.
Choice? Unwanted woman's tissue?
No; death of a HUMAN being.
There are many more; but you get my drift; I hope.
It is a problem; isn't it...
Good point!
Who's money pays for the state services that the business uses?
So I guess George Washington was an anti capitalist. LOL. History is on my side not yours.
Ah if Paco was getting paid $30/hr no company would move to Mexico. It’s about the cheap labor. You can fool yourself and into believing otherwise but that doesn’t make it true.
As I asked upthread, if a public university chooses to charge one favored group of students les for the same education as everyone else would you object to calling that a subsidy?
If not, what's the difference between that and a state choosing to charge one entity less in taxes than the others yet providing them the same level of services?
I didn't say it wasn't.
I merely pointed out that labor is only ONE piece of the pie.
Businesses WILL do whatever it takes to lower production costs.
The Republican Party is becoming the dominant political party in the USA because Trump had successfully marginalized the teeny tiny minority of Free Trader Crony global capitalist that run(ruin) the Party to the point where the average person actually believes in the Party - again. The Republican Party is returning to its protectionist roots - hurray! Not a minute to soon.
No.
But; businesses WILL 'charge' whatever the market will bear.
GM will take a Chevy pickup; plunk GMC logos on it, call it PROFESSIONAL and charge MORE for it because there are some customers that perceive a greater value in what they are buying.
What “state services” are you referring to that aren’t being paid for, exactly?
An educated workforce, public roads used by the business and it's employees, a functioning court system, state police services, a state tax collection system.
Want more?
There’s that math again... There is MORE money coming in with the business taxes reduced and 1000 more people employed than with the business CLOSED and 1000 people out of work.... Those are your only choices.
Where is the money for those things coming from once the business moves to mexico? I’m not going to waste my time explaining where public highway money comes from to a person who’s being wilfully obtuse.
True nuff. How can people be so hard hearted, so played by evil.
Actually, there's a third choice. Indiana has a 4.4% unemployment rate. How about the employees laid off from Carrier get jobs with businesses that can make an acceptable profit operating in Indiana without taxpayer subsidies?
Lots of businesses in the state failed or had to lay off employees last year. Why didn't the state jump in to subsidize them? Why Carrier?
And the problem is making a slow mess of America.
I’d be in favor of putting an exception into the minimum wage law, if not getting rid of it, and go ahead and let companies that stay in America scrape the low end as low as they think they can make it viable. Paco is some uneducated dude that they trained in Mexico. Why can’t they do that to our urban unemployed here? It would lighten the welfare budget and some of these people would be able to use this as a stepping stone to a more lucrative career.
I read you are still butt hurt over Carrier and Indiana working out an agreement to keep a plant in Indiana. What you have ignored from the 'get - go' is, government using we the people (as we are government) to tax and regulate a business out of business. Taxation is NOT a compact, it is big daddy using the force of law to control business and people. Then the layer upon layers of 'regulations' spewed out of these control freaks from upon high, are for the purpose to harm/control one aspect of the business world while benefiting a favored business.
Perhaps your bottom line is being harmed by Carrier staying in Indiana?
Right. And the other services I mentioned?
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