Posted on 12/07/2016 6:53:13 AM PST by Kaslin
How did the fire start and how did everyone get to the 2nd floor if there were no stairs, only piles of pallets?
The day I went there to retrieve my daughter’s trailer, when we arrived at Eight Mile road, we were confronted with five lines of vehicles (that stretched out on to the dry lake bed as far as you could see) being winnowed down to one lane so that they could drive at the posted speed limit (25 mph) of the town of Gerlach (pop. 208) to exit.
We were told to go to 12-Mile road which was the “service entrance.” when we got to the entry post, we were disposed to wait for a Burning Man Ranger, who would escort us to our daughter’s campsite (at 5 mph). Now, the “ranger” who’s name was “Ranger Coyote” was a “lifer” who told us he’d been a “burner” for 14 years, driving an aging Toyota LandCruiser. On the way to the campsite, he picked up a bare-breasted young woman who needed help finding her lost bicycle, but he did manage to get us where we needed to go nonetheless. After we got everything loaded “Ranger Coyote” came back by and since we would have had to go to the back of the long line at 8-Mile road, he took us back to the 12-mile road exit and had the “guards” allow us to leave by that route. Long story short, we were back in the SF Bay Area in about seven hours. The rest of my daughter’s group, all of whom had already left via the normal exit took 32 hours to get back their various places in the SF Bay Area.
BTW, there were dozens of high-end trailers and motor homes billeted in one area for the owners to reclaim later in the week
You must be very relieved your daughter chose not to attend the Ghost Ship party.
I feel bad for the innocent people who died in this fire but as to the rest who knowingly endangered their own safety and the safety of others?
No great loss.
The fire chief, Theresa Reed, makes over $300K/year, but is real busy working on diversity issues, attending NAACP events and stuff like that... so she probably doesn't have time for fire safety.
The city of Oakland pays more per year in debt service alone than it collects from all property taxes.
It seems that the whole purpose of the city government is to enrich the bureaucrats.
The 50s weren’t as many people remember them.
The fire department should have condemned that building, what were they thinking turning a blind eye to this obvious hippie apartment which never should have allowed any occupancy.
FANG’S aunt by marriage (96 yrs. old) has always lived just
as she liked no matter who it harelipped. Not that she was
“immoral” - didn’t exactly approve of the “gay” stuff; but
wouldn’t have said anything intolerant of it either if any
of her artsy-fartsy friends were into that lifestyle.
I’ve never known her to be anything but a mostly selfish
self-absorbed, self-important “artist” head and shoulders
above the rest of us. Since FANG’S uncle died 17 yrs. ago,
we haven’t spent a lot of time in that dynamic. For one
thing, we’re getting older ourselves and don’t travel a
lot. I think we only vaguely are sort of familiar to her.
- She (and her son) have been pretty much “difficult” to
put it mildly.
“You must be very relieved your daughter chose not to attend the Ghost Ship party.”
She would not have gone there, but she’s involved in music and at least one of the deceased was a singer that she knew. That sort of thing is always a parents nightmare, and even though she’s now 32, she’s still our daughter and will remain so for as long as we live.
Ha. Maybe I should get one of my 4x4s out of mothballs and volunteer for “ranger” duty at the next Burning Man...
...or maybe not...
What do you mean ?
Oakland has sadly gone the way of places like Detroit when it comes to leadership. I can remember living there right after WWI ended and my father returned from four years in Australia with the US Navy. It was a very nice city with a long line of Republican mayors. Unfortunately, like Detroit it has suffered from RAT and Black RAT Mayors since the term of Republican Mayor John H. Reading ended in 1973. He was followed by Lionel Wilson, a black RAT former superior court judge, then Elihu Harris, a Black RAT, then our ubiquitous Governor Jerry Brown had his turn in between his two 8 year stints as our governor, followed by Black RAT Communist, Ron Dellums, who left his congressional to become mayor, later still Jean Quan a Chinese Commuinist, and Now Libby Schaaf who is a Capo. With this kind of “leadership” is it any wonder what happened?
You must be the most senior members on this board... congratulations for still being active here.... my hat's off to you!
In best Jim Lahey voice: “It’s a perfect spit storm of Liberal idiocy, Bubbles....”
A complete, total failure of people to act like responsible adults is to blame....welcome to Liberal Utopia!
http://www.research.ufl.edu/publications/explore/v10n1/pdfs/pg07extracts.indd.pdf
The TV day ended early, not because of concerns for family life, but because of limited technology.
I'm willing to accept the idea, but I didn't see it in that article.
Technology or not, the conditioning element was strong in the 50's and 60's ... the subliminal seduction of the drive-in cartoon/commercials notwithstanding, e.g.
No, those were two different points.
Search for remains ends at Oakland warehouse with fire death toll at 36
Veronica Rocha
December 7, 2016
LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-oakland-warehouse-fire-complaints-20161207-story.html
I’d like to hear more about the bare breasted chick!
Why do they desire to live in such an expensive city? If they lived in a small town in middle America, they would at least be able to live more comfortably on their income - and we’d have a better chance at bringing them to God and to real values.
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