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Donald Trump is not a fascist
American Thinker ^ | December 12, 2016 | Bookworm

Posted on 12/12/2016 4:09:34 AM PST by Kaslin

For months now, the Democrat-Progressive fever swamps have been using the word “fascist” in connection with Donald Trump and those who voted for him. It took Michael Kinsley to elevate this shoddy claim onto pages of the Washington Post: Trump, he asserts, is a fascist.

Sadly, Kinsley reveals, as so many before him have, that academic degrees are no substitute for intelligence, knowledge, critical analysis, and basic logic. The term “fascist” is a very distinct one and Kinsley can apply it to Trump only by redefining it entirely. His is a deconstructionist effort that leeches all meaning from the word.

Because Kinsley’s essay is currently behind a paywall, let me summarize briefly what his argument is before I demonstrate what a shoddy piece of disinformation it is.

Kinsley opens in a defensive posture, absolving himself of proving Godwin’s Law, which holds that internet discussions always end with Hitler analogies. Instead, Kinsley boasts, “I mean ‘fascist’ in the more clinical sense.”

What is this clinical sense? If you plow through an endless cascade of words, Kinsley accuses Trump of being a crony capitalist, not to enrich himself and his friends, but to claim boasting rights about his skills conferring material benefits on the American people. Kinsley calls this “corporate statism,” which he says is the same as “fascism,” although he considers himself too classy to call Trump a fascist (except when he calls Trump a fascist).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; michaelkinsley; washingtoncompost

1 posted on 12/12/2016 4:09:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Jealousy.

Projection.


2 posted on 12/12/2016 4:16:17 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Kaslin

A good historical explanation of how the international socialists redefined the national socialists as “the right”.

Long, but worth reading.


3 posted on 12/12/2016 4:19:14 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Kaslin

Just another MSM Loon on drugs.


4 posted on 12/12/2016 4:27:10 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: Kaslin
Donald Trump is NOT a fascist. Fascism is a system that seeks to impose the values of dialectical materialism through the government control of the means of propaganda, education and production. In fascist economies the means of production is controlled by regulation as opposed to outright government ownership as in socialism. Trump has never espoused such a philosphy.

Fascism places great emphasis on the unity of the masses. One of Mussolini's campaign slogans in 1922 was "Forte Unita" which was translated as "Stronger Together" and adopted by one of the major party candidates for the US presidency in 2016 - but it wasn't Donald Trump.

5 posted on 12/12/2016 4:27:15 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Proudly deplorable since 2016. Lock Her Up!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Our citizens have become accustomed to leaders who don’t know what the heck they’re doing or who have another agenda that’s not in our best interest. Now we have a real man, a real leader who knows how to get things done, and loves this country. This upsets a lot of people.


6 posted on 12/12/2016 4:31:55 AM PST by ryderann
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Right; based on the facts DNC is Fascist. But in their defense it’s only because they couldn’t get Communism through the American system. DNC Fascism was only a stepping stone to the DNC Stalinism they really wanted.


7 posted on 12/12/2016 4:33:05 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: marktwain

Yes it is worth reading


8 posted on 12/12/2016 4:36:30 AM PST by Kaslin (Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible)
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To: Kaslin

Donald Trump is facing US Fascism that is wide-spread and embedded in universities, institutions, and organizations through out the federal government, the States and overseas US held locations. They are best exemplified by the states’ Human Rights Commissions.

Our Brownshirts have their hands on the bureaucracies of government. They are entrenched and need to be rooted out by a decisive hand. This will be a dangerous job and death will happen for leftists totalitarians disparage freedom and will kill for control.


9 posted on 12/12/2016 4:36:50 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Kaslin

For a lot of people today, “Fascist” means — “people who disagree with me”.


10 posted on 12/12/2016 4:40:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: \/\/ayne

Fascism seems to be the default backup position for communist wannabes. See the European Union. (Don’t count on them dropping Ode to Joy and adopting Giovinezza as their anthem though. :oD )


11 posted on 12/12/2016 4:45:08 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Proudly deplorable since 2016. Lock Her Up!!!)
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To: Kaslin

In most cases fascism and socialism aren’t mutually exclusive. Your garden variety socialist, your garden variety communist, is usually a fascist as well. As a practical matter they go together whatever the theory says.

And yes, DNC is both socialist and fascist.

A guy who wants to reduce the role of government in business is not fascist. The guy who wants to decentralize government is not fascist.


12 posted on 12/12/2016 4:50:48 AM PST by marron
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To: marktwain

Progturds have been redefining words for a hundred years in ways that would make the Red Queen blush. Standard tactic.

I would point out I posted over a year ago that who ever the next president was they would be a tyrant. All the machinery has been put in place by the “progressives”. I believe this is really what sparks their fury. To have struggled to build this Leviathan for so long. Generations of dedicated effort. Only to have a usurper like Trump swoop in and seize the beast just as they were about to cement their hold on power. It infuriates them. Their response to him leaves Trump little choice but to use the powers they created against them.

How much of a tyrant he will actually be against them is really irrelevant because ANY action against them will be magnified by their friends in the BSM as “greater affront to morality than the holocaust”.

No question we dodged a bullet but they aren’t anywhere near giving up.


13 posted on 12/12/2016 5:02:59 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

There is still the tyranny of the lawyers that even the president will have a hard time breaking


14 posted on 12/12/2016 5:09:51 AM PST by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Macroagression melts snowflakes)
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To: Kaslin

People confuse nationalism with fascism. True fascism is things like the minimum wage and restrictions on the amount of water your toilet uses when it flushes.


15 posted on 12/12/2016 5:13:47 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: Kaslin

While a generally fair assessment of the political spectrum, it missing - I think - a very crucial point. Fascism in the 20th century developed as a reaction to WW1 and the failure of international Marxist/Leninism to achieve its international goals. Both Marx and Lenin believed that true socialism could not be achieved without it being implemented throughout the world, hence their determined efforts to overthrow governments by revolution. Hitler and Mussolini, on the other hand, became heretics to this political viewpoint by rejecting that goal as unachievable and seeking to establish the worker’s paradise within one nation, through a nationalist socialist party, rather than the Internationale.

In regards to our current political climate, a case can be made that there really is no real non-fascistic government in existence in the world. We are all fascists now as far as the idea that government can achieve social progress. The worldwide acceptance of Keynesian economics has given politicians the freedom to spend and print unlimited money and has destroyed what was left of the world’s free economies. The fight now is really just over the speed in which society can be controlled via political action and force.


16 posted on 12/12/2016 5:26:28 AM PST by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: Kaslin

One thing guaranteed to make leftists freak is to respond to their calling President Trump a “fascist”, by saying, “If Trump is a ‘fascist’, then both Hillary and Bernie Sanders are ‘communists’.”

Leftists of all stripes, excepting actual communists, are *terrified* of being labeled “communists”. Not because they are not sympathetic to communism, but because they know that the label “communist” ranks right up there with cancer for popularity by Americans.

Because leftists bandy around the words “fascist”, “Nazi”, “racist”, etc., for any or no reason, those words have lost much of their sting, few people any longer associating them with the reality of *real* fascists, Nazis, and racists, and just see them as tired invectives by leftists who are losing an argument.

But “communist” still lives in infamy. Comparing someone to communists associates them with vicious fanaticism, rivers of innocent blood, grinding cruelty, poverty, dictatorship, and the threat of nuclear apocalypse. Again, in the minds of the American public.

Which is why leftists are terrified of even the slightest comparison. Communism is their “N” word, as much as the “N” word itself has kept, even increased, in its vehemence because it is forbidden from use.

So this is why, if you really want to get the goat of leftists, liberals, socialists, whoever, say “If Trump is a ‘fascist’, then both Hillary and Bernie Sanders are ‘communists’.”

You will not only win the argument, but you will give them a panic attack.


17 posted on 12/12/2016 5:29:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: Kaslin

But Hillary and Obama are.


18 posted on 12/12/2016 5:41:23 AM PST by Williams (Trump You Magnificent Bastard!)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone who does not toe the progressive line is a fascist by default in the so-called minds of liberals.


19 posted on 12/12/2016 6:49:52 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Kaslin

Another definition of FASCISM is “extreme social regimentation and control”

Just what is is that liberals want to do: They want to control everything about people’s actions, words, and economic choices.

In other words, Liberals are SOCIOECONOMIC FASCISTS.

In history, when their socioeconomic fascist policies fail, they often resort to military fascism.


20 posted on 12/12/2016 7:22:59 AM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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