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Time to replace Paul Ryan as House speaker
Americanthinker.com ^ | 3/25/17 | J. Marsolo

Posted on 03/25/2017 3:58:32 AM PDT by cotton1706

Paul Ryan failed miserably in his first important task for the Trump agenda.

Since 2009, the Republicans have campaigned in the elections of 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016 that they would repeal and replace Obamacare. One would think that given this history, the Republican leaders, such as Ryan, would have a well thought out plan to repeal Obamacare.

Ryan probably did not believe that Trump would win and was unprepared to lead the fight to repeal Obamacare. Ryan did not support Trump during the primaries and did his best to damage Trump. Moreover, since Trump's election in November, Ryan and the Republican leaders should have been working on a bill to repeal Obamacare to consider immediately after inauguration. But it seemed that Ryan had a plan with little if any input from conservatives. Trump had to step in to force compromises and adjustments to appeal to conservatives.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; obamacare; paulryan; rayancarebillpulled; replaceryan; ryan; ryancarebill; trump
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To: cotton1706

This was a win for Ryan...He can now close that book and move on to other ways to screw Trump...


61 posted on 03/25/2017 6:31:30 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Yes along with the rest of the never trump bro types.


62 posted on 03/25/2017 6:36:40 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: TTFlyer

“Birds of a feather and all that.......”

So all the principled conservatives celebrating the saving of Obamacare right alongside Hillary Clinton and the Dems, who are rightfully ecstatic at their great victory, really are birds of a feather?


63 posted on 03/25/2017 6:40:31 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: hoosiermama

And then let Tom Delay be Speaker for a year.


64 posted on 03/25/2017 6:44:33 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: cotton1706

Can anyone explain to me why Trump is kissing Paul RINOs butt? Now he is saying he doesn’t blame Paul RINO for the bill WTF??? Is he kidding?


65 posted on 03/25/2017 6:48:59 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: LeoWindhorse
please explain to me what “ Senate Parliamentarian “ is?

He is what kept Clinton from being impeached while that idiot Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist deferred to him on every issue. Rehnquist was supposed to be the President of the Senate during that impeachment but the Parliamentarian always had the last word.

66 posted on 03/25/2017 7:03:22 AM PDT by itsahoot (Must learn to resist the compunction to offer advice or help to complainers.)
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To: Paladin2

That would work
At least put each in charge of coalescing a major bill and whipping the vote
They would probably enjoy the challenge

Now to get the suggestion to the Trump Team


67 posted on 03/25/2017 7:14:35 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: American in Israel
The lack of repeal in the repeal and replace effort

I am in the first district of VA. my congressman has voted consistently to full repeal of ACA and did not support the Ryan bill.

I sent a note to my congressman this morning as to Republican House leadership - Time to Repeal and Replace.

68 posted on 03/25/2017 7:15:41 AM PDT by Dustoff45 (Where there is smoke, there is someone playing with matches trying to start a fire.)
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To: bonehead4freedom
Ryan couldn't get ObamaCare repeal done because the Chamber of Commerce wants to move to single payer to get health care off the corporate books


Exactly! Wake up America.

69 posted on 03/25/2017 7:20:38 AM PDT by itsahoot (Must learn to resist the compunction to offer advice or help to complainers.)
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To: Avalon Memories
To pull this stunt now serves no one well and definitely plays into the Left's hands, making us all much less free.

Actually they saved the Trump presidency if he can keep it.

70 posted on 03/25/2017 7:22:12 AM PDT by itsahoot (Must learn to resist the compunction to offer advice or help to complainers.)
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To: cotton1706

The House Freedom Caucus is a die hard group of libertarian conservatives who banded together to stop the “same old, same old” uniparty way of expanding government. I am glad they stood firm and killed this awful 3-phase plan. They are true patriots. Yes, they reluctantly voted for Ryan as speaker. (I talked in person to my congress critter, a founding member. He said they were willing to give him one more shot, period. I also talked to him about this obama care lite thing—he and others were in a tough place—told him it was a very tough decision, but I support him no matter what he does on it.)

Obama care lite: Step 1 did nothing big. Step 2 would have been court-bound and tied up for 2 years as every liberal group sues over Tom Price’s decisions. Step 3 would never come, as it would just die in the senate when everyone’s distracted 2 years from now.

They all ran on complete repeal. Hold their feet to the fire. Do it in the house, send to the senate, then melt the phones. Mitch (rhymes with...) would be forced (for example) to change the filibuster rules to make them actually filibuster instead of just raising their hand. Actually,current rules allow them to limit debate in an actual filibuster right now. I believe each senator can be limited to one (possibly two) actual floor speech per session on a given matter. There are other alternatives available as well, go nuclear for example. Mitch just doesn’t currently have the balls. Force his hand, or remove him.

Ryan needs to be replaced as speaker. If that comes out of this, we won bigly. Trey would be great, for example. Anyone but the perfumed prince backstabbing never-trumper-won’t-work-weekends beta male we now have.

This is what needs to be done:

First, replace Ryan. Period. Strike while the iron is hot, and strike with everything. I’ll be melting the phones on this. It’s our great chance to remove this asshat.

Second, pull all the current exemptions. All of them. Force all the exempt friends of dems onto Obamacare, en mass. Unions, half of Nevada, etc. all exempt. Friends of dems, all. No exemptions for anyone. Current law allows removing exemptions, no problem. Then Obamacare will be radioactive and people from all sides will scream for its repeal. Make it fail by implementing it in full.

Third, pass a clean repeal in the House, with an effective date 4 months after passing. It starts the timer and forces the beta males in charge to do it right. Tort reform, selling across state lines, block grants, etc. Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads.

Fourth, force the senate to get with the program and stop the “60 votes or nothing” game. Put them on the spot, force individual senators to state their positions. Put the blinding glare spotlight squarely on them.

It will get done using this plan.


71 posted on 03/25/2017 7:37:49 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Drone Soros and sons!!!)
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To: cotton1706

Yes...BENEDICT RYAN went in as a conservative and a guy who really wanted to change D.C. but the global establishment flashed wads of money in front of his face and that sunk him! How do all our representatives all of a sudden become millionaires? How can Ryan afford such a huge expensive house in DC? Look for the money trail and you’ll know exactly why our representatives continue to backstabbed the American people! Money is the root of all evil in DC it can turn a decent man into a raving money hungry, the hell with the Constitution and the representation of the people, lunatic! Time to fire his ass!!! We need to start a petition ASAP!!


72 posted on 03/25/2017 8:01:35 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Beagle8U

What section in Article 1 (legislature) of the US Constitution requires a supermajority (60 votes) to repeal a law previously passed and signed by a President?


73 posted on 03/25/2017 8:01:41 AM PDT by Reily
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To: goldbux

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74 posted on 03/25/2017 8:16:56 AM PDT by goldbux (No sufficiently rich interpreted language can represent its own semantics. -- Alfred Tarski, 1936)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Bump! +1


75 posted on 03/25/2017 8:27:16 AM PDT by upchuck (U have not lived today until u have done something for someone who can never repay u ~ John Bunyan)
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To: cotton1706

Don’t just identify the problem!

Make recommendations.....

Who to replace?..... who has the gravitas, skill, drive and background to be effective?


76 posted on 03/25/2017 8:27:50 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: cotton1706
Give Ryan the Chris Christie treatment. Christie was benched when he failed to organize Trump's transition team, and he never found a spot in the new administration.

Ryan was given a task, and he failed to deliver to expectations. It's time for him to be benched, too.

Trump is the CEO; he has to delegate. If his subordinates cannot perform, then he must replace them with someone else who can.

I don't accept the short-term meme that Trump is damaged. Trump should publicly make sweeping changes of all people who were involved in this as a show of action, and use it to promise his base that next time he will get it done right.

But in the meantime, he should say he's moving onto other agenda items while his new healthcare team puts in the groundwork to set the new frame properly.

Trump should set a new deadline so as to manage the expectations of the base. He should promise to pick this up again in September, after the August recess. Then, he can use the time to craft a new plan, and use the August recess to schedule town hall meetings across the country where Republican representatives on his side can build support amongst their constituents.

-PJ

77 posted on 03/25/2017 8:52:45 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Reily
But why does a law passed via a simple majority in both Houses and a President signed it into law require a supermajority to undo? You only need a super-majority to override a veto!

It's not really a supermajority that they need, it's an excuse to not act. With this, they have one.

78 posted on 03/25/2017 8:55:17 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie
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To: pepsi_junkie

That’s what I thought!


79 posted on 03/25/2017 8:58:35 AM PDT by Reily
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To: cotton1706

Ryan had 7 years to get this right.

FAIL!!!!!!!


80 posted on 03/25/2017 9:03:31 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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