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What You Need to Know About Climate, In One Chart
PowerLine ^ | 05/06/2017 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 05/06/2017 9:39:54 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

From Andy May at Watts Up With That, a chart that contains an enormous amount of information relevant to the climate debate. It shows global temperature as inferred from proxies (tree rings and the like), carbon dioxide and methane concentrations, and temperatures as predicted by the alarmists’ models for the Holocene epoch, the time since the end of the last Ice Age.

May comments:

In the figure below (source Javier, here) proxy global average temperatures for the whole Holocene (last 11,500 years) are shown in black. Computer model temperatures calculated by Liu, et al. (2014) are shown in green, carbon dioxide and methane concentrations from ice cores are also shown. For the Neoglacial Period, temperatures go down, but the computer model temperatures go up, so does the carbon dioxide level. Quite obviously, for the Holocene, neither CO2 nor the computer models are predictive of temperature.

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KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; climatechangechart; climatechangefraud; climatechangegraphic; climatehoax; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; models
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1 posted on 05/06/2017 9:39:55 PM PDT by ForYourChildren
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To: ForYourChildren

Nice.

What you see here is the climate computer model mapped against real data.

The computer model is an absolute failure against real data.

As the original articles says, ""Green curve, simulated global temperatures from an ensemble of three models .. show the inability of general climate models to replicate the Holocene general temperature downward trend."



2 posted on 05/06/2017 9:42:14 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

I take surveys to make a few extra bucks when work is slow or i’m at home killing time.

Man made climate change isn’t a question on the surveys anymore, at least not whether it exists.

The questions are am I a good or rotten person when it comes to caring about the climate :)

I’m rotten.

I get asked where it stands in importance compared to other things a company stands for.

It couldn’t be lower.

It’s right below socially conscious and giving back to society.

I just want as good a product as people at a good price.

Crazy, i know.


3 posted on 05/06/2017 9:52:02 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: ForYourChildren

It is not science if you have to change the data to ‘prove’ that you are correct.


4 posted on 05/06/2017 10:04:57 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016
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bflr


5 posted on 05/06/2017 10:09:59 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (It appears that we no longer wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin...)
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To: ForYourChildren

>> The computer model is an absolute failure against real data.

Can you simplify? Assuming the “real data” is current, is it different than the “computer model” of a projection from years ago?


6 posted on 05/06/2017 10:18:42 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

“Can you simplify?”

Read the article to get a clearer understanding.

Here is my attempt for you.

We have data going back Holocene epoch time period which we can chart. We run the climate computer models during that same time period. The computer model data that is generated and charted, should be identical to the charted data going back Holocene epoch time period. But it isn’t.


7 posted on 05/06/2017 10:25:34 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ForYourChildren

He says that if the alarmists were real scientists they’d go back to the drawing board.

But that’s the whole point: You can’t do science while you’re having a cow.


8 posted on 05/06/2017 10:28:55 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Gene Eric
Assuming the “real data” is current, is it different than the “computer model” of a projection from years ago?

Yes.

http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2016/01/revisiting-yet-again-hansens-1998-forecast-on-global-warming-to-congress.html

9 posted on 05/06/2017 11:16:13 PM PDT by TChad (Propagandists should not be treated like journalists.)
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To: Gene Eric

10 posted on 05/06/2017 11:18:33 PM PDT by TChad (Propagandists should not be treated like journalists.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Climate change fraud bump for later.....


11 posted on 05/06/2017 11:20:56 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: ForYourChildren

AGW theory has nothing to do with science, and the elites know this.

AGW theory has only one goal. That is to push climate alarmism and to use this as a man-made crisis to force the developed nations to:

A) Funnel money to undeveloped nations

B) Starve their nations of cheap energy

C) Destroy the economies of the developed nations

D) Implement UN Agenda 21 to move everyone from rural to high density urban

E) To control the populations of the developed nations

The entire global warming industry is a hoax to destroy the western developed nations, but them under world governance, and transfer their wealth to the world’s poor.

This is a fact.


12 posted on 05/07/2017 2:49:45 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Trump: What to do now I can't repeal Obamacare? I know, lets start a war with Russia!)
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To: ForYourChildren

I would explain it more simply than that.

Earth has cooled dramatically in the last 10,000 years.

Cooling is impossible in the IPCC model since only warming can occur in the model. The model cannot explain why the earth would cool over a long time.

Therefore the IPCC model is completely false and should never be refered to.

Period.


13 posted on 05/07/2017 2:55:43 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Trump: What to do now I can't repeal Obamacare? I know, lets start a war with Russia!)
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To: ForYourChildren

It’s 42 degrees here in TN this morning.. in May. I have been wearing sweatshirts. The disappearing polar bear ice is here.. send it back! The last three summers have had sweatshirt days.


14 posted on 05/07/2017 3:55:54 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Gas attacks. Substitute Sadam for Assad and Iraq for Syria? How many American lives do you commit)
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To: LibWhacker

“LIKE”


15 posted on 05/07/2017 4:06:49 AM PDT by high info voter (Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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To: Gene Eric

I am a knuckle drager who needs lots of pictures to understand stuff. An oldie but a goodie, this made it clear to me long time ago; The Great Global Warming Swindle. Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4fa32O3GFQ

Regards.


16 posted on 05/07/2017 4:17:44 AM PDT by Sine_Pari
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To: Trumpnado2016
Obama's people noticed that the FCC.gov Radio website had to be changed and scrubbed all the information about Sun Radiation actually being radio waves that carried heat to the planet's surface causing temp change's.

We are living in a leftist facist period where everything true is being denied or replaced to support the narrative.

17 posted on 05/07/2017 4:18:13 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Jumper

The earth has been warming and cooling for 4.3 billion years.
What’s new ?


18 posted on 05/07/2017 4:38:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: momincombatboots

Freeze warnings in upstate NY tonight.


19 posted on 05/07/2017 4:43:41 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: ForYourChildren
The consensus of scientists agree that:

1.) Mount Everest is the highest in the world.
2.) The Nile river runs north and south, while the Amazon River runs east and west.
3.) The sun is the center of the solar system, and
4.) Day is light and night is dark.

What more proof of Global Warming do you need?

(/s)

20 posted on 05/07/2017 5:14:17 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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