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1 posted on 06/22/2017 5:13:33 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Gee... Use history as a guide to our policy decisions.

What a radical idea. /S


2 posted on 06/22/2017 5:15:53 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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China is now unified and within it reside about half the population of Asia. Like the Middle Kingdom before it ,it views itself and the dominant, central power of Asia. Yet like the Middle Kingdom it has its own inherent problems and meets a natural formidable resistance from other Asians when it overextends itself. Frankly now as then ,it will be up to the Asians themselves to work out a reasonable consensus. American involvement is foolish. It is not likely to be effective and historically does nothing for the security of the American people but inevitably creates long term bitter enemies and resentments.


3 posted on 06/22/2017 5:31:08 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Gotta love Bannon... A student of history who understands we're at war with the forces of darkness.  And a bonus: he's got a sense of humor, too!
5 posted on 06/22/2017 5:36:19 AM PDT by poconopundit (FR: Self-Reliant Lovers of Liberty who can't stop the Chatter)
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I was hoping Trump would address this issue. China is rising power and we need to address the issue

https://smile.amazon.com/Destined-War-America-Escape-Thucydidess-ebook/dp/B01IAS9FZY/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498135053&sr=1-1&keywords=trap

Every day, Trump seems to find a new way to impress me. I’m am not tired of winning yet. If the US survives as a Republic, it will largely be Trump’s doing.


6 posted on 06/22/2017 5:40:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Dems want to destroy history - US civil war, 100+ years of Democratic position on slavery and blacks, failure of communist states, Islamic invasions, etc.

Trump wants to learn from it.


8 posted on 06/22/2017 5:51:57 AM PDT by LostPassword
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“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”


9 posted on 06/22/2017 5:52:58 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning.)
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Of interest.


11 posted on 06/22/2017 5:55:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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We need to get this China stuff right.

It is unlikely that we’ll be destroyed from without, but more likely we’ll be destroyed by the rot from within.

A balance needs to be struck between treasonously accelerating China’s rise (Clinton most favored nation status, Loral Aerospace & military tech) and aggressively challenging them in areas where it would make sense to leave them alone.


12 posted on 06/22/2017 5:56:16 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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Don't think it's necessary to publish how we are thinking. Let the other guys guess. I do agree that Thucydides is a good guide. Hope they are reading Sun Tzu as well since he most likely guides China's thinking on war.

After the "Those guys are weak and will never fight Us" scenario (Japan in 1941), the "We must react to the emerging threat" scenario is probably the leading cause of wars, from the Peloponnesian War, throughout Roman history, up to Hitler and Barbarosa.

15 posted on 06/22/2017 6:00:59 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Proudly deplorable since 2016 - BLOAT)
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To: RoosterRedux

Better to consult history than his kid like Jimmah did.


16 posted on 06/22/2017 6:06:12 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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I thought everyone in the Trump Administration were clowns, stupid, unable to read and wouldn’t even know what a Greek classic was.


19 posted on 06/22/2017 6:32:11 AM PDT by Parmy
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Next on their reading list should be an account of Alexander's Afgan campaign.

Here's a hint; buy off the war lords and GTFO.

20 posted on 06/22/2017 6:32:47 AM PDT by Pietro
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Trump White House Turns to Ancient Greek Historian...

I'm afraid they won't get much out of him, even if they do dig him up.

23 posted on 06/22/2017 7:15:52 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (If you choose not to deal with reality, reality will deal with you - and not on your terms)
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“Eeyew, history is so, like, last yee-are.”


27 posted on 06/22/2017 12:12:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have a number of problems with the “Thucydides Trap”, but the largest is that Athens wasn’t an “emerging power” prior to the Peloponnesian War, it was an established power, therefore Spartan opposition to Athens didn’t come about during the Athenian rise, but subsequent to it.

OTOH, it seems to me that in the face of Athenian expansion, Sparta was the declining power, which may have motivated Spartan adventurism. The war itself was won by Sparta more from Athenian mistakes than any specific Spartan strategic vision.

So if there’s any lesson it would be that the dangers facing the US come from weakness and not strength, a lesson was better directed at Obama, not Trump.


28 posted on 06/22/2017 4:49:29 PM PDT by nicollo (MAGA)
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