Posted on 07/14/2017 5:31:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga
Taking a high level of the drug can cause organ failure, strokes, heart attacks, and death if it is not treated immediately. The longer treatment waits, the more likely an overdose will kill the user. Beyond the risk of overdosing, the regular abuse of opiates can cause changes in the body.
Magnesium depletion.
“You want to pay EMTs to drop everything and come the rescue of repeat overdoses just as they do with heart attacks, strokes, and other ills that flesh is heir to? Not with my tax money you don’t.”
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So, what’s next? What treatment gets excluded because someone doesn’t like the victim’s life choices. .
First Responder: “OK guys, back to the station. This car accident victim’s blood alcohol content is over the limit. Forget about him. PACK UP AND MOVE OUT! Maybe we can still catch the last round of Pat and Vanna. Last one to the station washes dishes.”
Or...
First Responder: “OK guys, back to the station. This heart attack victim is a fatty. He obviously doesn’t care about himself. PACK UP AND MOVE OUT! Maybe we can still catch the last round of Pat and Vanna.” Last one to the station washes dishes.”
Or...
First Responder: “OK guys, back to the station. This hemorrhaging abortion victim has had two previous abortions Forget about her. PACK UP AND MOVE OUT! Maybe we can still catch the last round of Pat and Vanna. Last one to the station washes dishes.”
Or...
First Responder: “OK guys, back to the station. This old guy is just too old. Forget about his stroke PACK UP AND MOVE OUT! Maybe we can still catch the last round of Pat and Vanna. Last one to the station washes dishes.”
And some people are predisposed to suicide. Among the users, opioid users, especially now that fentanyl is becoming the drug of choice for traffickers, are suicidal. They should only be rescued once or twice then should be required to take responsibility for their own lives. This is especially so where the government has taken over the medical system and medicine is in competition for tax money for things that get more votes. The more money that goes to fentanylists the less is available for diseases that are not matters of choice.
Bullsh!t First off if they're your family member YOU do something for them, Don't screw over the taxpayers for your family member's bad decision. Second EVERYONE has a choice. No one forces you to become addicted, whether the process is a gradual "slippery slope" or all out heroin shoot up. I've been given opioid prescriptions for pain on multiple occasions, and as long as you just take them for pain, there isn't any desire to keep going. Pain is an antagonist to opioid effects.
the addiction catches you.
Your opinion, not mine.
Funny how both parties have for years wanted lessen penalties for black crackheads & dealers, but suddenly have found evil white druggies they want to punish. Generally, something evil is going on when both parties agree.
Legalize all drugs. Follow the highly successful Portuguese model. Societal costs have plummeted and drug use is down.
Please look real hard at what the Portuguese have done to help so many.
Blaming opioids for addiction reminds me of the people who blame violence on guns rather than the criminals who abuse them. The rhetoric is the same too. "Epidemic of gun violence", "epidemic of opioid addiction" when in fact NEITHER is an epidemic.
If someone's kid become an addict (and all addicts have parents) then who do you blame? The parents? Maybe, but not necessarily. The drug? The drug is a thing, it doesn't make you take it. HOW ABOUT BLAMING THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE BAD LIFE STYLE CHOICE even if it is your kid.
Looks a lot like a cloward piven stratagem. Doctors are in the employ/under the direction of governmenty regulations. Write tons of scrips for opioid pain killers and voila...a new epidemic.
just spitballing...
KYPD
Some people are predisposed to liberalism. Sad, but true. I tend to view both as flaws of our education system.
Not one of you addict enablers have given me any reason as to why the fruits of MY labor should be taken from me forcibly (remembering that for every dollar I earn, I have to give up some of my life) and then given to treat some a$$hole addict who decided that getting high was his goal in life.
Remember we're talking about limited resources here and how to allocate them.
Do not touch that stuff unless you have strong will power and if you find yourself taking it despite not being in pain, check into rehab right away. That stuff is no joke.
What about the people who don’t know they’re on opioids because the medical industry hides that fact with clever drug names? And blaming people for following doctor’s orders is kind of a dick move, doctors are supposed to help us.
Complete myth, utterly false. It’s not absorbed through the skin, whatever TV show sold you that bill of goods lied to you, never watch it again.
Slyfox asks: “Aside from the overdosing, how do these people take this stuff without getting SUPER constitpated?”
That is a question I also ask. 6 years ago I suffered a tib/fib fracture and had screws/pins/plates installed in my lower leg. My doctor had me on Percocet and after a few days and no lower GI action I began to wonder why.
After going off the drug and once the GI system kicked back in, it really kicked in! I always say that the worse part of the fracture and recovery was related to the lower GI slowdown. I lost 10+ pounds after my first successful trip to the bathroom after stopping the drug. I couldn’t sit for a week, had to visit the doctor for something to relieve the suffering in my fanny. Not fun.
Seems funny now but at the time it was anything but (pun intended).
The doctors aren't getting people hooked on pills. 'Big Pharma' isn't getting people hooked either. Rather, the vast majority of heroin users started recreationally...and a lot of people don't want to hear this, but it really started with a little weed, some mushrooms, some ectasy at a party, etc...and it escalates from there. IOW, these 20 year old addicts never made a visit to a doctor for 'back pain'.
No, I don't want heroin addicts to die from OD.
And no, I make no claim to know how to solve our drug problems (I've never personally known an addict to successfully shake addiction).
But I believe the blaming pill pushing doctors and 'big pharma' is a head in the sand approach. Its a combination of drug manufacturing becoming darn near industrialized (Mexico), with an increasingly efficient distribution system (Mexico), and lots of young people without much of a moral compass who have been conditioned to expect instant gratification...and, taught to always deflect their shortcomings onto others.
No one close to me is going to abuse narcotics or drop dead from said abuse. Like 99.3% of the us population no one in my family is hooked on narcotics or has the slightest interest in becoming so.
You paint with a broad brush, sir..
That's really terrible. I was given opioids for kidney stone pain and post operative pain. I never felt the slightest desire to take that sh!t once the pain was gone. I have osteoarthritis and use a lot of advil, which doesn't completely get rid of the pain, but I live with what's left. Problem with NSAIDS is that they have a limit for pain over which they are no longer effective. Opioids don't have that limit, but the residual pain (for me at least) is the lesser of two evils.
I’m pretty sure I saw an article or two with the DEA warning cops not to get any fake pills/heroin with carfentanil on their skin because they could overdose. That was crap or what?
FReegards
I herniated a disc in my neck and laid in bed for 3 weeks with my arm curled over and around my head. I was taking a Vicodin 750 every 2-3 hours and they were barely touching the pain. Eventually the pain started easing a little and I started slacking off on the Vicodin. Got up and walked into the kitchen sick. Sweating, weak, nauseous. Hubby said what’s wrong? I told him and he laughed and said...you’re addicted. I said nuh uh. He said. Uh huh.
I walked straight back to the bedroom and picked up the bottle and flushed them down the toilet. I went through about 5 days of withdrawal. Haven’t taken 1 since. Told doc I got addicted and she switched me to Tramadol.
Not sure what the answer is since these types of drugs are needed by people for pain. But I don’t like throwing billions and billions of taxpayer money at it either.
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