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Charlie Gard has Died
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Posted on 07/28/2017 10:32:51 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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KEYWORDS: charliegard; fujm; prolife
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To: Arthur McGowan

All souls return to heaven, regardless of whether or not they were baptized in a flesh body.

Angle means ‘messenger’, in a spirit body.. some good, some bad and some ugly.


101 posted on 07/28/2017 11:56:26 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: mazda77

No, I ask God. Anyone who cannot do that, and refuses to see reality, is blind without hope.

At my age, with my medical history, it is a question that comes up often with older friends.

It’s something to think about now, before such decisions are made with diminished physical and/or mental capacity.


102 posted on 07/28/2017 12:01:21 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Ray76
hospice is euthanasia, in my experience

That's the dirty little secret.

103 posted on 07/28/2017 12:02:28 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Democrats hate too much
This is what McCain would want.

Too bad they couldn't have traded places.

104 posted on 07/28/2017 12:03:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Strac6
I’m sorry, but I disagree. The child was always terminal. There is an ethical question about was the pain and suffering he would continue to endure justified by the very small chance of recovery.

The Parents should have made that call, not the State.

105 posted on 07/28/2017 12:04:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jane Long

“What a sad day...first we get Benedict McCain’s betrayal .... essentially pushing the same socialized medicine that killed sweet Charlie.

Beyond depressing.

May Charlie rest in the arms of our Savior.

May all of those who neglected care on him...and countless others (including those who wish 0Care upon this great nation) be dealt with, accordingly.”

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Yes. When Sen. McCain first traveled to DC from AZ, I thought it was an amazing, wonderful thing, that he had made the effort to vote with his party and President, even though he is sick.

Now it turns out he made the effort for other reasons entirely.

There is a reason that people travel hundreds or even thousands of miles, sometimes illegally, to get health care in the United States. And yet the left wants to inflict long lines, interminable waiting lists, etc., on people.

My two children were born in Denver. When they got sick, I could call the pediatrician in the morning and have them seen on the same day, with a thing called ... *gasp* ... an appointment!!!

That does not happen up here in Canada. You have to go to the emergency room and wait. I know because I had to take my 18 month-old daughter to one when she had an ear infection; I sat in a waiting room with a crying baby from 10 a.m. until well into the evening.

I only got service after I complained; no one had been called for probably two hours (at least). I went up to the reception and said, in my broken French, “What’s going on? The doctor hasn’t called anybody in a very long time!”

She said, “The doctor is having dinner.”

I said, “This is a hospital! Are you telling me there are no other doctors available??”

Then I turned around to the crowd and said, “Why do you people put up with this treatment? It is ridiculous.” And my French was not that good at the time. People were suffering in that waiting room, but no one said a darn thing.

What do you know...the line started moving and my daughter was seen within 15 minutes of my horrible American outburst.


106 posted on 07/28/2017 12:06:39 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: dfwgator

True, but had I been the parent, I would have let him go.


107 posted on 07/28/2017 12:06:50 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: Strac6
True, but had I been the parent, I would have let him go.

Charlie's parents felt differently, and those wishes should have been respected.

108 posted on 07/28/2017 12:07:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Strac6

But you weren’t the parent, period.


109 posted on 07/28/2017 12:11:10 PM PDT by mazda77
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To: proud American in Canada

Your story is what American’s need to be screaming about, at the tops of our lungs, all across this great nation.

You’ve LIVED the difference between world class healthcare...that you obviously were able to afford...vs....horrid socialized medicine.

I pray that American’s wake up and don’t accept just ‘sitting there and taking it’ like your Canadian citizens did, in that waiting room.

Can you imagine John McCain waiting HOURS, in an ER, with his original symptoms??

Such a perfect analogy....Canadians in socialized waiting room Hell get awakened by an American outburst.

Wake up, America!! It’s about to be too late!


110 posted on 07/28/2017 12:14:34 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: dfwgator; Ray76; All

“hospice is euthanasia, in my experience”

That’s the dirty little secret. “

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You are right, dfwgator and Ray. When my mother was dying of cancer, she had the room that was the farthest from the nurses’ station; and every time my sister and I visited her, her machines were beeping (either she needed more pain meds or some liquid food).

I later read that they put the more hopeful cases closer to the nurses’ station, so the patients get quicker care. I don’t know if that’s true, but my mother did seem neglected.

My father recently passed away at an assisted living facility. I live far away from where he was living; my sister lived in the same town but was dealing with the death of her 9 year-old son, and going through marital troubles and issues with her first born (both caused by the death of my nephew, IMO). She gave great care to my Dad but was also completely stressed to the maximum.

In former times, families would be together and help each other when our elders’ time had come.

It just seems like we have lost something precious.

Yes, it’s great to travel and live in a new place (I grew up in Chicago but fell in love with CO and moved there in my 20’s). Then my husband and I moved to his native Canada. But it’s also true that in some ways, we’re cutting the “ties that bind.”


111 posted on 07/28/2017 12:27:21 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: dfwgator

It takes a village to raise a child, and a national ‘health’ service to speed him along to his death.

Coming soon to a formerly free nation near you.


112 posted on 07/28/2017 12:29:37 PM PDT by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: Deo volente

I’ll never forget how sickening it was to watch them “celebrate” the NHS during the 2012 Olympics Opening Ceremony.


113 posted on 07/28/2017 12:30:48 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jane Long

“Can you imagine John McCain waiting HOURS, in an ER, with his original symptoms??”

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LOL!!! Oh my, you’re cracking me up. ;) (not really).

Nope, you’re right. There are two sets of rules. One set for the privileged few and another set for those peons who foot the bills for the privileged few.

America, be careful!!! Do not destroy the greatest health care system on Earth.

Hospitals in the U.S. are well-maintained, clean, with nice furniture, up-to-date equipment, etc. I swear the hospital here looks like something out of the 1950s’. There’s just no money—too many social benefits (”free” all-day daycare, etc.).

And this, even though Canada can afford to neglect its military because the leaders know that if the you-know-what hits the fan, Uncle Sam will be on it like white on rice. Canada will never be attacked because the U.S. will take care of any problems (too close to home).


114 posted on 07/28/2017 12:35:34 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: proud American in Canada

When I was growing up in Philadelphia, we had a great pediatrician. Back then they were just called family doctors. If a child was sick on a Sunday, he would tell the parents to bring him over, no problem. I remember reading that in his obituary. I had a medical emergency once when I was about nine years old, and he opened his office late in the evening to see me.

Of course, this was fifty years ago and America was a much different place back then. Sad to see what has happened to the practice of medicine, among other things.


115 posted on 07/28/2017 12:40:30 PM PDT by Deo volente ("Our Independence Day is at hand, and it arrives finally on November 8th." Donald Trump)
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To: Responsibility2nd

RIP Charlie.

Prayers up for his grieving family, in Jesus name.


116 posted on 07/28/2017 12:45:57 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is why you do not want Government Health Insurance.. RIP Charlie..


117 posted on 07/28/2017 12:51:40 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Responsibility2nd

Wonder how many at CNN say ‘Good riddance, Charlie!’..?


118 posted on 07/28/2017 12:57:50 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Innovative

I suspect that the American people, at least 65 million of them, will never be able to connect the dots in the Charlie Gard case.


119 posted on 07/28/2017 1:01:54 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: Jane Long

AZ people though are unfazed by either event.


120 posted on 07/28/2017 1:02:31 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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