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The Relationship Between Hurricanes and Climate Change
New York Times ^ | August 25, 2017 | By JOHN SCHWARTZ

Posted on 08/25/2017 9:34:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The relationship between hurricanes and climate change is not simple. Some things are known with growing certainty. Others, not so much.

The most recent draft of a sweeping climate science report pulled together by 13 federal agencies as part of the National Climate Assessment suggested that the science linking hurricanes to climate change was still emerging. Looking back through the history of storms, “the trend signal has not yet had time to rise above the background variability of natural processes,” the report states.

Temperatures have been rising, and theory and computer modeling suggest an increase in storm intensity in a warmer world, “and the models generally show an increase in the number of very intense” storms.

And while the science of attributing weather events to climate change is advancing, “studies of individual events will typically contain caveats,” the report stated.

Katharine Hayhoe, a climate scientist at Texas Tech University and an author of the report, said even if global warming does not change the number of storms — and, she noted, there could even be fewer hurricanes over all — tropical storms and hurricanes do gain energy from warm water, so the unusually warm water that has accompanied climate change “can have a role in intensifying a storm that already exists.”

Dr. Hayhoe noted that scientists are not saying that hurricanes are necessarily caused by climate change, but are being affected by them.

“We care about a changing climate because it exacerbates the natural risks and hazards that we already face,” she said. “People always want to know is it climate change or is it not? The answer is it’s in between.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hoax; journalism; socialism

1 posted on 08/25/2017 9:34:22 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Get your hip waders out. The BS is running pretty deep. We haven’t had a major hurricane in years. Now we get a big one. Get over it.


2 posted on 08/25/2017 9:36:29 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
the models generally show an increase in the number of very intense” storms.

I believe that a major hurricane has not hit the US in something like 148 months. Harvey may break that streak, but it's still a heck of a streak.

Maybe their computer models suck.

Maybe the whole thing is a giant fraud.

Maybe.

3 posted on 08/25/2017 9:37:30 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Trump’s fault...


4 posted on 08/25/2017 9:37:58 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: RKV

Not complicated, simple. The models said more hurricanes and we have have less. The only possible conclusions is that the models are wrong. That is how science works.


5 posted on 08/25/2017 9:39:19 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Doogle

Naw..this is probably caused by the statue of some white guy.


6 posted on 08/25/2017 9:40:26 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: thorvaldr

Ah yes. Falsifiability. An old favorite of mine. When the model doesn’t predict or predicts in the wrong magnitude or direction, well, the model is no good.


7 posted on 08/25/2017 9:41:42 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“the trend signal has not yet had time to rise above the background variability of natural processes”

More time, that's what they need. Yeah, that's the ticket.

8 posted on 08/25/2017 9:44:59 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Your Free Speech is Violence. My Violence is Free Speech.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It just never stops, the relentless propaganda from the Left.

One hurricane in how many years?

Global warming was not only to have destroyed the Earth by now, but hurricanes were supposed to be almost too numerous to count by now.

The Left’s climate predictions have crashed and burned so many times.

And yet, here they are again.


9 posted on 08/25/2017 9:46:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Global Warming theory predicts fewer or less intense hurricanes due to a decrease in the temperature gradient from low to high latitudes. However, alarmists cannot admit anything good might come from warming so they contradict their own theory and predict more storms. The only evidence in their favor right now is the decline in storm activity but they can't brag about it because they deny their own theory!
10 posted on 08/25/2017 9:46:53 AM PDT by Cruising Speed
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To: Doogle
Trump’s fault...

Just wait, word is that during the remodel, they found Bush's weather machine!

11 posted on 08/25/2017 9:48:13 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Al Gore says, ...


12 posted on 08/25/2017 9:50:07 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Mastador1

...already heard news comments relating Trump to Bush’s Katrina
(CBS early)


13 posted on 08/25/2017 9:51:08 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“the trend signal has not yet had time to rise above the background variability of natural processes,”

Considering that the world as we know it was supposed to end in a catastrophic heat wave 10 years ago, shouldn't we be able to see a small "signal" by now?

14 posted on 08/25/2017 9:53:28 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
After Katrina, they predicted that we would have Cat 5's on a regular basis. They were 100% wrong.

Will go back and look at what I'm sure were ominous quotes from Gore.

15 posted on 08/25/2017 10:00:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Reminds me of Spanky of Our Gang when he became a golf caddy. Asked how the green broke he said...”Well it might break this way, or it might break that way, or it might break this other way...”

“Well we might have more hurricanes, but then we may have less hurricanes, then we may have more powerful hurricanes, but then....”

We will get better results by asking the black ball, then see what shows up in the viewer. (remember those?)


16 posted on 08/25/2017 10:08:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: thorvaldr

not only are their a lower number of tropical cyclones, the ones that are being “counted” or named is being exaggerated so as to show an inflated number of storms.

Also, the climate nutcases quietly changed their global warming alarms into climate change. The climate has changed since the planet formed.


17 posted on 08/25/2017 10:10:23 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: RKV

no hurricanes for 11 years... one storm... Storm of the decade!


18 posted on 08/25/2017 10:14:09 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

READ!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3515701/posts


19 posted on 08/25/2017 10:16:44 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The headline in the Tampa Bay Times said ‘Massive Storm headed to Texas’. Stupid headline...but the Times is liberal...I miss the Tampa Tribune...


20 posted on 08/25/2017 2:29:01 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is DEPLORABLE :-))
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