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BREAKING: 62 Scholars correct Pope Francis for "propagating heresies"
Lifesite news ^ | 9/23/17 | Pete Baklinski

Posted on 09/23/2017 4:03:36 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper

ROME, September 23, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – Expressing “profound grief” and “filial devotion,” Catholic clergy and lay scholars from around the world have issued what they are calling a “Filial Correction” to Pope Francis for “propagating heresy.”

The Filial Correction, in the form of a 25-page letter, bears the signatures of sixty-two Catholic academics, researchers, and scholars in various fields from twenty countries. They assert that Pope Francis has supported heretical positions about marriage, the moral life, and the Eucharist that are causing a host of “heresies and other errors” to spread throughout the Catholic Church.

The correction was delivered to the Pope at his Santa Marta residence on August 11, 2017. No similar action has taken place within the Catholic Church since the Middle Ages, when Pope John XXII was admonished for errors which he later recanted on his deathbed.

“With profound grief, but moved by fidelity to our Lord Jesus Christ, by love for the Church and for the papacy, and by filial devotion toward yourself, we are compelled to address a correction to Your Holiness on account of the propagation of heresies effected by the apostolic exhortation Amoris laetitia and by other words, deeds and omissions of Your Holiness,” the signers write in the letter.

“As subjects, we do not have the right to issue to Your Holiness that form of correction by which a superior coerces those subject to him with the threat or administration of punishment,” they state.

“We issue this correction, rather, to protect our fellow Catholics — and those outside the Church, from whom the key of knowledge must not be taken away — hoping to prevent the further spread of doctrines which tend of themselves to the profaning of all the sacraments and the subversion of the Law of God,” they add.

Advertisement  The signers respectfully insist that Pope Francis condemn the heresies that he has “directly or indirectly upheld,” and that he teach the truth of the Catholic faith in its integrity.

They say that they make “no judgment” about the Pope’s culpability in propagating the seven heresies they list. They add that it is not their task to “judge whether the sin of heresy has been committed” whereby a person “departs from the faith by doubting or denying some revealed truth with a full choice of the will.”

The letter was made public today, six weeks after the signers received no response from the Pope.

Duty to correct

The 62 clergy and lay scholars explain that, as believing and practicing Catholics, they have the right and duty to issue such a correction to the Pope “by natural law, by the law of Christ, and by the law of the Church” and that the correction in no way undermines Catholic teaching on papal infallibility.

The Catholic Church teaches that the Pope is infallible (incapable of error by a special gift of the Holy Spirit) when certain conditions are met. He teaches infallibly in his ordinary capacity when a doctrine is consistent, constant, and universal in relation to what the Church and other popes have always taught. Or in an extraordinary capacity, he teaches infallibly when he speaks “ex cathedra,” that is, when he speaks in the capacity of his office as Apostolic pastor and teacher for the purpose of defining a “doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.” The Pope is not infallible in other matters, such as when he gives an off-the-cuff interview or presents his personal reflection on a given topic.

“We adhere wholeheartedly to the doctrine of papal infallibility,” the signers state, adding that in their opinion “neither Amoris Laetitia nor any of the statements which have served to propagate the heresies which this exhortation insinuates are protected by that divine guarantee of truth.” The signers’ opinion that the exhortation is not infallible magisterial teaching is backed by leading churchmen, such as Cardinal Raymond Burke.

The signers list a dozen passages from Amoris Laetitia that they say “serve to propagate seven heretical propositions.”

Included in the list is the “smoking” footnote 351 where the Pope writes that those living in an objective situation of sin can receive the “help of the sacraments” to grow in the life of grace and charity. Many have interpreted this to mean that civilly-divorced-and-remarried Catholics living in adultery can receive Holy Communion, and the Pope has endorsed guidelines allowing this. Also included in the list is the text pertaining to couples living in adultery who, the Pope writes, see their situation as “what God himself is asking” of them, despite falling short of the “objective ideal.”

The scholars say that these passages along with a number of “words, deeds and omissions” of the Pope are “serving to propagate heresies within the Church.”

According to the signers, the “words, deeds and omissions” of Pope Francis that promote heresy include:

Advertisement  Refusing to answer the dubia (five yes-or-no questions) submitted by the four cardinals (two of whom are now deceased) asking him to confirm that Amoris Laetitia does not abolish five teachings of the Catholic faith.

Forcibly intervening at the 2015 Synod of the Family where he insisted on inserting into a midterm report a proposal (that did not receive sufficient votes) to allow communion for adulterers and a proposal that pastors should emphasize the “positive aspects” of lifestyles the Church considers gravely sinful, including civil remarriage after divorce and premarital cohabitation.

Endorsing an interpretation of the exhortation by Vienna Cardinal Christoph Schönborn that allows for Holy Communion to be given to adulterers.

Affirming the statement of the bishops of the Buenos Aires region that allowed Communion to be given to adulterers, stating that “there are no other interpretations.”

Appointing to positions of influence within the Church men who publicly dissent from Catholic teaching on the sacraments, including Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia and Cardinal Kevin Farrell.

Allowing guidelines for the diocese of Rome to be issued under his authority that permit adulterers to receive communion under certain circumstances.

Leaving uncorrected the publication in L’Osservatore Romano, the official journal of the Holy See, the Maltese bishops’ interpretation of Amoris Laetitia that allows communion for adulterers.

Seven heresies

The Catholic clergy and lay scholars go on to list seven “false and heretical propositions” which they say Pope Francis “directly or indirectly” upholds through his “words, deeds, and omissions.” These seven propositions, listed below, are summaries of the positions which they attribute to Pope Francis and deem to be heretical.

A justified person has not the strength with God’s grace to carry out the objective demands of the divine law, as though any of the commandments of God are impossible for the justified; or as meaning that God’s grace, when it produces justification in an individual, does not invariably and of its nature produce conversion from all serious sin, or is not sufficient for conversion from all serious sin.

Christians who have obtained a civil divorce from the spouse to whom they are validly married and have contracted a civil marriage with some other person during the lifetime of their spouse, who live more uxorio [as husband and wife] with their civil partner, and who choose to remain in this state with full knowledge of the nature of their act and full consent of the will to that act, are not necessarily in a state of mortal sin, and can receive sanctifying grace and grow in charity.

Advertisement  A Christian believer can have full knowledge of a divine law and voluntarily choose to break it in a serious matter, but not be in a state of mortal sin as a result of this action.

A person is able, while he obeys a divine prohibition, to sin against God by that very act of obedience.

Conscience can truly and rightly judge that sexual acts between persons who have contracted a civil marriage with each other, although one or both of them is sacramentally married to another person, can sometimes be morally right or requested or even commanded by God.

Moral principles and moral truths contained in divine revelation and in the natural law do not include negative prohibitions that absolutely forbid particular kinds of action, inasmuch as these are always gravely unlawful on account of their object.

Our Lord Jesus Christ wills that the Church abandon her perennial discipline of refusing the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried and of refusing absolution to the divorced and remarried who do not express contrition for their state of life and a firm purpose of amendment with regard to it.

The clergy and scholars state that these “propositions all contradict truths that are divinely revealed, and that Catholics must believe with the assent of divine faith.”

They add that it is “necessary” that such heresies be “condemned by the authority of the Church,” on account of the “great and imminent danger” they cause to souls.

As one of the signers explained to LifeSiteNews, St. Thomas Aquinas taught that faithful Catholics have a duty to correct an erring prelate. He quoted the following passage from the saint’s famous theological work Summa Theologiae:

If the faith were endangered, a subject ought to rebuke his prelate even publicly. Hence Paul, who was Peter’s subject, rebuked him in public, on account of the imminent danger of scandal concerning the faith, and, as the gloss of Augustine says on Gal. 2:11, Peter gave an example to superiors, that if at any time they should happen to stray from the straight path, they should not disdain to be reproved by their subjects. The signers conclude the letter, writing: “At this critical hour, therefore, we turn to the cathedra veritatis [seat of truth], the Roman Church, which has by divine law pre-eminence over all the churches, and of which we are and intend always to remain loyal children, and we respectfully insist that Your Holiness publicly reject these propositions, thus accomplishing the mandate of our Lord Jesus Christ given to St Peter and through him to all his successors until the end of the world: ‘I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren.’"

Advertisement  One significant name in the list of signers is that of Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior general of the traditionalist Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX). He signed the letter after it had already been submitted to the Pope. It remains to be seen how Fellay’s agreement with the content of the filial correction will affect Pope Francis’ recent efforts to integrate the SSPX legally into the Catholic Church.

Signs of the times

The filial correction comes after more than a year of the Pope not dialoguing or engaging with faithful Catholics who have approached him directly with serious concerns about how he is steering the Barque of Peter, the Church. The Pope has been sent letters, petitions, video messages, and official questions (the dubia), but all to no avail. Significant dates of attempts to dialogue with the Pope include:

September 29, 2015 – 791,000 Catholics (including 8 cardinals, over 200 bishops, and numerous priests, religious, and lay faithful representing 62 pro-family organizations) petition Pope Francis to end the “widespread confusion arising from the possibility that a breach has been opened within the Church that would accept adultery... and would virtually even accept homosexual unions.”

July 13, 2016 – 16 international life-and-family advocates plead with the Pope to “unambiguously speak the truth of the Catholic faith, to end doctrinal confusion, to restore clarity, and to be the Holy Father that Catholics need.”

July 11, 2016 – 45 Catholic scholars submit a letter to the cardinals and Eastern patriarchs of the Church asking them to petition the Pope to “repudiate a list of erroneous propositions” that can be drawn from Amoris Laetitia.

September 19, 2016 – Four cardinals (two of whom are now deceased) submit to the Pope five yes-or-no questions (dubia) asking if the exhortation conforms to perennial Catholic teaching on the moral life. The questions were never answered.

January 18, 2017 – Three Eastern European bishops launch a “spiritual crusade” urging the Pope to “revoke in an unequivocal manner” pastoral guidelines stemming from Amoris Laetitia that allow adulterers to receive Holy Communion.

April 25, 2017 – The four dubia cardinals unsuccessfully ask the Pope for a private audience to discuss “confusion and disorientation” within the Church after the publication of Amoris Laetitia.

The filial correction of the Pope comes at a time when reports have emerged that suggest a "formal correction" of the Pope from cardinals may be imminent.

Cardinal Raymond Burke, one of the dubia Cardinals, outlined in August what such a correction would entail.

Advertisement  “It seems to me that the essence of the correction is quite simple,” Burke told The Wanderer. “On the one hand, one sets forth the clear teaching of the Church; on the other hand, what is actually being taught by the Roman Pontiff is stated. If there is a contradiction, the Roman Pontiff is called to conform his own teaching in obedience to Christ and the Magisterium of the Church,” he said.

“The question is asked, ‘How would this be done?’ It is done very simply by a formal declaration to which the Holy Father would be obliged to respond. Cardinals Brandmüller, Caffarra, Meisner, and I used an ancient institution in the Church of proposing dubia to the Pope,” the Cardinal continued.

“This was done in a very respectful way and not in any way to be aggressive, in order to give him the occasion to set forth the Church’s unchanging teaching. Pope Francis has chosen not to respond to the five dubia, so it is now necessary simply to state what the Church teaches about marriage, the family, acts that are intrinsically evil, and so forth. These are the points that are not clear in the current teachings of the Roman Pontiff; therefore, this situation must be corrected. The correction would then direct itself principally to those doctrinal points,” he added.

Cardinal Burke added in an interview this month that the forthcoming formal correction would “require” the Pope to teach what the Catholic Church has always taught about marriage, the Eucharist, and the impossibility of ever justifying intrinsically evil acts.

His Eminence stated in a September 21 interview with Australia’s Catholic Outlook that he and remaining dubia Cardinal Walter Brandmüller will “take forward the important work of resolving the dubia.”

“The urgency of a response to the dubia derives from the harm done to souls by the confusion and error, which result, as long as the fundamental questions raised are not answered in accord with the constant teaching and practice of the Church. The urgency weighs very heavily on my heart,” he said.

The Filial Correction and its signatories, along with a summary statement and press release, can be viewed at www.correctiofilialis.org.

Editor's note: Diane Montagna contributed to this report.

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Signatories of the Filial Correction

Note: The letter delivered to Pope Francis on August 11 contained 40 names. 22 more names have been added since that date.

Advertisement  Dr. Gerard J. M. van den Aardweg European editor, Empirical Journal of Same-Sex Sexual Behavior

Prof. Jean Barbey Historian and Jurist, former Professor at the University of Maine

Fr Claude Barthe Diocesan Priest

Philip M. Beattie BA (Leeds), MBA (Glasgow), MSc (Warwick), Dip.Stats (Dublin) Associate Lecturer, University of Malta (Malta)

Fr Jehan de Belleville Religious

Dr. Philip Blosser Professor of Philosophy, Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Archdiocese of Detroit

Fr Robert Brucciani District superior of the SSPX in Great Britain

Prof. Mario Caponnetto University Professor, Mar de la Plata (Argentina)

Mr Robert F. Cassidy STL

Fr Isio Cecchini Parish Priest in Tuscany

Advertisement  Salvatore J. Ciresi M.A. Director of the St. Jerome Biblical Guild, Lecturer at the Notre Dame Graduate School of Christendom College

Fr. Linus F Clovis Ph.D., JCL, M.Sc., STB, Dip. Ed Director of the Secretariat for Family and Life in the Archdiocese of Castries

Fr Paul Cocard Religious

Fr Thomas Crean OP STD

Prof. Matteo D'Amico Professor of History and Philosophy, Senior High School of Ancona

Dr. Chiara Dolce PhD Research doctor in Moral Philosophy at the University of Cagliari

Deacon Nick Donnelly MA

Petr Dvorak Head of Department for the Study of Ancient and Medieval Thought at the Institute of Philosophy, Czech Academy of Sciences, Prague Professor of philosophy at Saints Cyril and Methodius Theological Faculty, Palacky University, Olomouc, Czech Republic

H.E. Mgr Bernard Fellay Superior General of the SSPX

Christopher Ferrara Esq. Founding President of the American Catholic Lawyers’ Association

Advertisement  Prof. Michele Gaslin Professor of Public Law at the University of Udine

Prof. Corrado Gnerre Professor at the Istituto Superiore di Scienze Religiose of Benevento, Pontifical Theological University of Southern Italy

Dr. Ettore Gotti Tedeschi Former President of the Institute for Works of Religion (IOR), Professor of Ethics at the Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Milan

Dr. Maria Guarini STB Pontificia Università Seraphicum, Rome; editor of the website Chiesa e postconcilio

Prof. Robert Hickson PhD Retired Professor of Literature and of Strategic-Cultural Studies

Fr John Hunwicke Former Senior Research Fellow, Pusey House, Oxford

Fr Jozef Hutta Diocesan Priest

Prof. Isebaert Lambert Full Professor at the Catholic University of Louvain, and at the Flemish Katholieke Universiteit Leuven

Dr. John Lamont STL DPhil (Oxon.)

Fr Serafino M. Lanzetta STD Lecturer in Dogmatic Theology, Theological Faculty of Lugano, Switzerland; Priest in charge of St Mary’s, Gosport, in the diocese of Portsmouth

Advertisement  Prof. Massimo de Leonardis Professor and Director of the Department of Political Sciences at the Catholic University of the Sacred Heart in Milan

Msgr. Prof. Antonio Livi Academic of the Holy See Dean emeritus of the Pontifical Lateran University Vice-rector of the church of Sant'Andrea del Vignola, Rome

Dr. Carlo Manetti Professor in Private Universities in Italy

Prof. Pietro De Marco Former Professor at the University of Florence

Prof. Roberto de Mattei Former Professor of the History of Christianity, European University of Rome Former Vice President of the National Research Council (CNR)

Fr Cor Mennen Lecturer in Canon Law at the Major Seminary of the Diocese of ‘s-Hertogenbosch (Netherlands) Canon of the cathedral chapter of the diocese of ‘s-Hertogenbosch

Prof. Stéphane Mercier Lecturer in Philosophy at the Catholic University of Louvain

Don Alfredo Morselli STL Parish priest of the archdiocese of Bologna

Martin Mosebach Writer and essayist

Dr. Claude E. Newbury M.B., B.Ch., D.T.M&H., D.O.H., M.F.G.P., D.C.H., D.P.H., D.A., M. Med; Former Director of Human Life International in Africa south of the Sahara Former Member of the Human Services Commission of the Catholic Bishops of South Africa

Advertisement  Prof. Lukas Novak Faculty of Arts and Philosophy, Charles University, Prague

Fr Guy Pagès Diocesan Priest

Prof. Paolo Pasqualucci Professor of Philosophy (retired), University of Perugia

Prof. Claudio Pierantoni Professor of Medieval Philosophy in the Philosophy Faculty of the University of Chile Former Professor of Church History and Patrology at the Faculty of Theology of the Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile

Father Anthony Pillari J.C.L., M.C.L

Prof. Enrico Maria Radaelli Philosopher, editor of the works of Romano Amerio

Dr. John Rao Associate Professor of History, St. John’s University, NYC; Chairman, Roman Forum

Dr. Carlo Regazzoni Licentiate in Philosophy at University of Freiburg

Dr. Giuseppe Reguzzoni External Researcher at the Catholic University of Milan and former editorial assistant of Communio, International Catholic Review (Italian edition)

Prof. Arkadiusz Robaczewski Former Professor at the Catholic University of Lublin

Advertisement  Fr Settimio M. Sancioni STD Licence in Biblical Science

Prof. Andrea Sandri Research Associate, Catholic University of the Sacred Heart in Milan

Dr. Joseph Shaw Tutor in Moral philosophy, St Benet’s Hall, University of Oxford

Fr Paolo M. Siano HED (Historiae Ecclesiasticae Doctor)

Dr. Cristina Siccardi Historian of the Church

Dr Anna Silvas Adjunct research fellow, University of New England, NSW, Australia

Prof. Dr Thomas Stark Phil.-Theol. Hochschule Benedikt XVI, Heiligenkreuz

Rev. Glen Tattersall Parish Priest, Parish of Bl. John Henry Newman, archdiocese of Melbourne; Rector, St Aloysius’ Church

Prof. Giovanni Turco Associate Professor of Philosophy of Public Law at the University of Udine Member Correspondent of the Pontificia Accademia San Tommaso d'Aquino

Prof. Piero Vassallo Former editor of Cardinal Siri’s theological review Renovatio

Advertisement  Prof. Arnaldo Vidigal Xavier da Silveira Former Professor at the Pontifical University of São Paulo, Brazil


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To: winoneforthegipper
62 Scholars correct Pope Francis for "propagating heresies"

"Cardinal Fang, read the charges!"


21 posted on 09/23/2017 4:52:26 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: winoneforthegipper

I think he’s a Liberation Theology Marxist guy. This is terrific.


22 posted on 09/23/2017 4:56:57 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Thanks for the document. Copy and pasted into Word document for study.

My favorite signer is the following.

Dr. Claude E. Newbury M.B., B.Ch., D.T.M&H., D.O.H., M.F.G.P., D.C.H., D.P.H., D.A., M. Med.
Former Director of Human Life International in Africa.

Sheesh. What is he trying to prove with all the initials?

Pope Francis has been given the chance to do the ethical, honorable and decent thing: fix his heresies and twisted conclusions.


23 posted on 09/23/2017 4:59:46 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Falconspeed

Indeed. What will change the course of time now comes.


24 posted on 09/23/2017 5:05:34 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Removed from Breaking?

First formal rebuke of a Pope since the dark ages and you dont classify it as news?

Yeah...


25 posted on 09/23/2017 5:09:24 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: bigtoona

I have never seen that behind the Pope’s throne, and I have been to Rome many times. I suspect it is tucked away somewhere, no??


26 posted on 09/23/2017 5:21:51 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: winoneforthegipper

The Catholic Church has liberalized the process of annulment. Annulment plus civil divorce assures a fair distribution of the marital assets, protects the vulnerable spouse, and protects the children. (I know this isn’t always the case.) This is not the best, as remaining married to each other would be better; but, it may be the best that can be done under the circumstances. Especially if we are talking about adultery, spousal abuse or abandonment.

The Catholic position differs from the eastern church, the Protestants, and the Jews, the details of which I cannot cover. But, here is what I can say: the Catholics take the promise of married until death much more seriously. This commitment is viewed as important to the happiness of the adults (as opposed to endless shopping around for a better spouse), and very important for the children and for society.

Allowing sacraments to those who are not married, but are merely cohabiting, is beyond outrageous! Not even the Protestants allow this. Co-habitation is terrible for women and the children who may be formed. Just thinking about this, makes me wonder what the cardinals and bishops are doing. There should be a revolt against this man.

The problem with people who are moral adulterers but civilly divorced and remarried can be handled one case at a time, and privately, by advising people to seek annulments. The truth is, these people have “jumped the gun,” and put the church into an awkward position. It could be that there was a hasty divorce, that the church cannot make right by an annulment. But, even if this is the case, the church has the power to forgive the sin that was involved.

Now we come to what I believe is the real agenda. It is homosexuality. This man is seeking to loose the Catholic Church from its long history of teaching on marriage in order to loose the Catholic Church from its long history of teaching on human sexuality. The Catholics are following the liberal Protestants into apostasy and heresy. They’re putting the narcissistic love of homosexuals ahead of the needs of children and of society for stable families.


27 posted on 09/23/2017 5:24:05 PM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: goldstategop

A bit more detail on ‘infallibility.” Much more on this site:

https://www.catholic.com/tract/papal-infallibility

Vatican II’s Explanation

Vatican II explained the doctrine of infallibility as follows: “Although the individual bishops do not enjoy the prerogative of infallibility, they can nevertheless proclaim Christ’s doctrine infallibly. This is so, even when they are dispersed around the world, provided that while maintaining the bond of unity among themselves and with Peter’s successor, and while teaching authentically on a matter of faith or morals, they concur in a single viewpoint as the one which must be held conclusively. This authority is even more clearly verified when, gathered together in an ecumenical council, they are teachers and judges of faith and morals for the universal Church. Their definitions must then be adhered to with the submission of faith” (Lumen Gentium 25).

Infallibility belongs in a special way to the pope as head of the bishops (Matt. 16:17–19; John 21:15–17). As Vatican II remarked, it is a charism the pope “enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (Luke 22:32), he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter.”

The infallibility of the pope is not a doctrine that suddenly appeared in Church teaching; rather, it is a doctrine which was implicit in the early Church. It is only our understanding of infallibility which has developed and been more clearly understood over time. In fact, the doctrine of infallibility is implicit in these Petrine texts: John 21:15–17 (”Feed my sheep . . . “), Luke 22:32 (”I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail”), and Matthew 16:18 (”You are Peter . . . “).

MORE follows online.


28 posted on 09/23/2017 5:28:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: Antifa, SPLC, CNN, CAIR, ESPN, NBA, NFL, NPR, BLM, Hollywood, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: bigtoona

Looks like ET.


29 posted on 09/23/2017 5:29:33 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: Antifa, SPLC, CNN, CAIR, ESPN, NBA, NFL, NPR, BLM, Hollywood, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: winoneforthegipper

This will no doubt enrage this narcissistic Pope. He will only get more vicious.


30 posted on 09/23/2017 5:41:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: bigtoona

That thing is hideous.


31 posted on 09/23/2017 5:51:46 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: bboop

“I think he’s a Liberation Theology Marxist guy. This is terrific”.

You’re right. He is more interested in Social Engineering than saving souls.


32 posted on 09/23/2017 5:53:18 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“This will no doubt enrage this narcissistic Pope. He will only get more vicious”.

Yes, he’ll become more obstinate. Just like Obama.


33 posted on 09/23/2017 5:54:27 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

There is no step ladder to God. The pope is just another human like many of us. He recons himself more valuable than he is.

Allowing for islam to be a valid religion is a no-go.


34 posted on 09/23/2017 5:54:57 PM PDT by soycd
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To: DAC21

Pedophelia is the baseline of the evil church. And so it is in not just the democrat party, but also the republicans. Death to them all.


35 posted on 09/23/2017 5:59:36 PM PDT by Professional
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To: sparklite2
"A person is able, while he obeys a divine prohibition, to sin against God by that very act of obedience."

Please notice, by scrolling up a bit, that this was listed as one of the seven heresies in the Papal Exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

Therefore this is not Catholic doctrine. It is the opposite of Catholic doctrine.

36 posted on 09/23/2017 6:06:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("My shrink said I was crazy and I said I want a 2nd opinion. He said, OK, and you're ugly, too.)
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To: DAC21
.he has, is and always will be an South American Socialist.

If that is true then HH has very serious First Commandment issues.

37 posted on 09/23/2017 6:06:44 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

6 weeks he was given to respond, not a peep from him.

>><<

He can’t respond because he has compromised the moral authority to do so.


38 posted on 09/23/2017 6:11:04 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for setting the context. By the time I read down to that item my eyes were so glazed over, my contacts slid out.


39 posted on 09/23/2017 6:13:10 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Can the cardinals effectively impeach the pope?


40 posted on 09/23/2017 6:22:37 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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