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Two NYPD cops charged with raping an 18-year-old in police custody
Wahington Examiner ^ | Oct 28, 2017 | Gabby Morrongiello |

Posted on 10/31/2017 4:05:18 PM PDT by Ken H

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To: ETL

Yes.
Consent due to coercion is what it would be considered if they even entertained the consent claims at all.
In other words, their judgement is farally flawed and they don’t need their jobs as tge power they were entrusted with is beyond their meager mental faculties.


41 posted on 10/31/2017 4:53:53 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: beergarden
That’s HER?? Yeah, I can understand the consensual part (s/)

Could conceivably been part of a deal to release her. Then again, maybe she was stoned and/or actually liked these guys. Surely you must know some women have a thing for cops. Actually, a lot of women do.

42 posted on 10/31/2017 4:55:15 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

“Could conceivably been part of a deal to release her.”

And thus they’d be doubly stupid and lacking in ethics.


43 posted on 10/31/2017 4:56:13 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Ken H

Anyone stupid enough to get into even this position (should all exculpatory facts be true) is too damned dumb to be given a badge and a weapon.


44 posted on 10/31/2017 4:57:40 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: ETL
Irrelevant. Even if she's the sexiest thing on two legs, this 18-year-old was under arrest. In a police van. That is, a prisoner. Under restraint. There's nothing like consent here, not even analogous, not even close, no matter what she said or did.

FReeper men, please think with the big head.

45 posted on 10/31/2017 4:59:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("On the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak” -Matthew 12:36)
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To: Darksheare

Well, I’m not trying to make the case that these guys are anywhere near intelligent. I’m just trying to sort out the various legal ramifications regarding the incident.


46 posted on 10/31/2017 5:00:19 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

That would be coercion whether she ‘consented’ or not. The cops are proven bad actors as evidenced by the DNA kit. They do not deserve the benefit of the doubt in the court of public opinion. I believe the girl.


47 posted on 10/31/2017 5:00:35 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: ETL

The legal smeagol of it is: bottom line, there is no such thing as consenting sex with someone in your custody.


48 posted on 10/31/2017 5:01:30 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Ken H

She consented just like they are going to consent if they get thrown in with the general population.


49 posted on 10/31/2017 5:02:36 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Ken H

I think this infringes her civil rights if she can’t choose to have sex in the police van.


50 posted on 10/31/2017 5:03:29 PM PDT by anton
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To: Ken H

Oh No! Not the breathalyzer again!


51 posted on 10/31/2017 5:05:15 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: ETL
The bottom line is: as a person in custody she is not in the category of persons who CAN legally consent, any more than if she were a "consenting" comatose person or a "consenting" 12-year-old.

She cannot legally consent.

52 posted on 10/31/2017 5:06:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("On the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak" -Matthew 12:36)
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To: anton

You forgot your /s/


53 posted on 10/31/2017 5:07:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Your sarcasm tag: don't leave home without it.)
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“While New York State law outlines that incarcerated individuals are unable to give sexual consent to corrections officers (and the same for those on parole to their parole officers) there is currently no law that bans sexual activity been officers and individuals under arrest or temporarily detained.

It is against NYPD policy to have sex on duty, and officers can be charged with official misconduct, but it is not actually illegal — a loophole that officers Martins and Hall attempted to exploit. ...”

https://www.salon.com/2017/10/31/its-completely-legal-for-nypd-cops-to-have-sex-with-someone-under-arrest-this-could-change-that/
54 posted on 10/31/2017 5:10:48 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: ETL

That female has psycho written all over her. These cops are going to pay dearly for letting their other brain take over and direct their actions.


55 posted on 10/31/2017 5:11:03 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Popman

She MAY have offered to service them in exchange for something then decided crying rape will give her a nice settlement. If those are her pics, she is all but offering herself online.


56 posted on 10/31/2017 5:14:41 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: ETL
Girl may have been nervy enough to bring up the idea as a way to get out of her troubles by making a lot of trouble for the cops once they did the deed.

No matter whose idea it was, the cops were stupid enough to allow it to happen. They should not be police anymore, either way.

57 posted on 10/31/2017 5:17:53 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: JudyinCanada; All

Teen girl who claims NYPD cops raped her speaks out

https://en.mogaznews.com/World-News/680703


58 posted on 10/31/2017 5:22:12 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: Ken H

Consenual or not it is inappropriate and should be considered highly irregular.


59 posted on 10/31/2017 5:22:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
How can your prisoner consent to sexual acts...?

Hookers negotiate prices all the time.........Not surprising that the article never mentioned the reason the hooker...oops, I meant the young lady,... was arrested for......

With that being said, the cops are dumbasses for having sex with the chick and not paying her. The least they could have done was let her go.........

60 posted on 10/31/2017 5:27:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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