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1 posted on 12/20/2017 9:36:56 AM PST by GIdget2004
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House (Re)voting now!


2 posted on 12/20/2017 9:40:23 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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True. The mandate is the lynchpin of Obiecare. Without it the whole ponzu scheme falls like a house of cards.


3 posted on 12/20/2017 9:40:39 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I would rather be deplorable than detestable.)
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It takes out one of many onerous measures.

8,000 pages still in effect.


4 posted on 12/20/2017 9:40:44 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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And the insurance subsidies will be authorized by Congress.
Probably in the CR Friday.

It’s “one step forward... “.


5 posted on 12/20/2017 9:40:44 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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But the Nevertrumpers said this could never happen.


7 posted on 12/20/2017 9:42:56 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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8 posted on 12/20/2017 9:42:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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“Trump: GOP tax bill ‘essentially’ repeals ObamaCare’
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9 posted on 12/20/2017 9:43:11 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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“When the individual mandate is being repealed, that means ObamaCare is being repealed,” Trump said during a Cabinet meeting at the White House. “We have essentially repealed ObamaCare and we will come up with something much better.”

Are the subsidies still in place? Are the offsets for the insurance companies still in place? Are the Obamacare taxes still in place? Then Obamacare is alive and well.

11 posted on 12/20/2017 9:45:05 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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"The GOP tax overhaul gets rid of the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate..."

Does the bill actually repeal the individual mandate, or does it merely reduce the penalty for failing to obtain health insurance to $0?

There is a huge difference between the two.

12 posted on 12/20/2017 9:45:19 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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Democrats/marxists are on suicide watch!

First Trump destroys their soros marxist net neutrality

Now their Obmacare is gone!

I'm enjoying the tears of democrats especially the melenial communists crying over their net neutrality gone !

14 posted on 12/20/2017 9:47:28 AM PST by Democrat_media (Mueller doing coup vs Trump. Obama was adding 97,000 pages of government regulations /year)
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The Individual Mandate may still apply to our 2017 tax returns.

Check this out.

17 posted on 12/20/2017 9:50:51 AM PST by red-dawg
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Prediction....competition will be terrific for prices and low cost alternatives to what insurance companies cover. There will be more information available about improving ones general health and immune system, and more concern about health eating, exercising, and lifestyle choices. When people pay their own bills, they'll notice some of the absurd costs without alternatives that insurance companies gleefully cover so they continue to raise rates.

One thing my mind can't resolve. The opioid crisis has spun way out of control with expanded Medicaid and Obamacare offering easy access to doctors and prescriptions that provide pharmaceutical poisons. Is there a connection? Maybe less people will become addicted if they know they're accountable for their decisions.

19 posted on 12/20/2017 9:51:18 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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Trump claims (falsely) that the tax bill repeals Obamacare. /s


23 posted on 12/20/2017 9:53:30 AM PST by ichabod1 (White Male)
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Just remember that the Obamacare tax is still in effect for all of next year.


29 posted on 12/20/2017 9:56:29 AM PST by Revel
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No. It repeals one of the more annoying and least liked parts of the measure. Now people can truly go without insurance until they get sick, and then purchase insurance to “pay” for their illness, since they did not change the requirement that all pre-conditions must be covered.

But I would not be surprised if President Trump actually believes this “repeals Obamacare”. He never seemed that upset about any of the ACA except that it forced people to buy insurance.

Next, he’s going to get Long Fence to put up a mile of chain-link and say he “sealed the borders” :)


39 posted on 12/20/2017 10:11:42 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To me the weird part of this is that the IRS already said, very clearly, at the start of 2017 that they had no intention of enforcing the Obamacare fines, and indeed had no reliable method for doing so other than withholding refunds, and since not all taxpayers GET refunds, that would be inequitable.

SO basically as of that moment, the individual mandate no longer existed. I don’t really see in practical terms what else needed to be changed. It’s like those arcane laws they find on the books, “you can’t walk your goat on Wednesday in Tuscaloosa.” If it’s not being enforced, is it really even a law?


43 posted on 12/20/2017 10:30:38 AM PST by babble-on
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Despite Trump’s claim, the tax bill does not repeal ObamaCare entirely.

Apparently the author of this article in The Hill, Jordan Fabian, either lacks reading comprehension or else is a lying partisan idiot. (OK, I'll admit that both could be true.)

Does Jordan Fabian not understand that "We have essentially repealed ObamaCare" does not mean the same thing as "We have entirely repealed ObamaCare"?

Or else he, like many other so-called 'journalists', decided to intentionally lie about what President Trump actually said, preferring instead to falsely put words into the President's mouth.

46 posted on 12/20/2017 10:51:18 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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I kind of wish he wouldn’t say it this way.

It repeals the mandate, but does not repeal the odious and onerous coverage requirements that cause the extremely high prices.

As a 50+ year old man, why would I need coverage for obstetrics for myself?


47 posted on 12/20/2017 10:56:21 AM PST by MortMan (Irony is the opposite of wrinkly.)
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My question is if this also repeals all of the provisions mandated by ObamaCare or just reduces the penalty to $0?

Will I now be able to buy a high deductible, catastrophic plan now, with reasonable premiums, or will I still be forced to purchase a “comprehensive” policy that covers dozens of things which I will never use that costs thousands of dollars a year?


48 posted on 12/20/2017 11:04:09 AM PST by VikingMom (I may not know what the future holds but I know Who holds the future!)
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As far as im concerned...if im not forced by the IRS to buy it...then im happy!


50 posted on 12/20/2017 11:12:21 AM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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