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Bastards! If they were really worried about degrading battery they wouldn't slow the phones silently, but rather warn users and tell them they can get the old speed back with a battery replacement.
1 posted on 12/20/2017 10:03:42 PM PST by Krosan
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It has nothing to do with the iphags wanting you to buy a new phone, honest.
2 posted on 12/20/2017 10:05:56 PM PST by deadrock
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it’s all part of assimilating into the Apple ecosystem...Apple users want Apple to do the thinking for them.


4 posted on 12/20/2017 10:10:35 PM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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Lithium batteries do not have a life to match their equipment. Thus they should be replaceable. I've had a laptop which lasted long enough to need two replacement batteries. Also, it is convenient to externally charge a cell phone battery and swap it in if it is you are in a situation where you don't have time to sit around and charge it inside the phone.

Easily swappable batteries is a requirement for my next phone - so no iPhone for me.

5 posted on 12/20/2017 10:11:09 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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I would say there needs to be a Class Action Lawsuit, but the only people who would benefit would be the sleazebag lawyers, they get paid cash and they would probably settle with apple and get everybody else $20 off THEIR NEXT $1,000 IPHONE.


6 posted on 12/20/2017 10:11:18 PM PST by Chainsawj (If you're gonna fight, fight like you're the 3rd monkey on the ramp to Noah's Ark and it's RAINING.)
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Cleanup in aisle 7...


7 posted on 12/20/2017 10:23:51 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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The older models they are slowing are a couple years newer than mine. I am Replying on an iPhone 5 that turned five years old this fall. Used heavily every day. No battery issues and no plans to upgrade any time soon.


8 posted on 12/20/2017 10:42:21 PM PST by philled (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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This is the primary reason I stopped buying apple phones. I had to upgrade every 2 years due to the speed issue. I switched over to the note 2 and it ran like a champ for 8 years. I replaced the battery twice and it still ran very well before it finally croaked.


12 posted on 12/20/2017 11:54:05 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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Slowing down the 6’s? Seriously?


14 posted on 12/21/2017 12:13:20 AM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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Battery duration totally sucks on my 6s. The 4 & 5 would last at least a day.


15 posted on 12/21/2017 12:43:29 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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22 posted on 12/21/2017 2:13:13 AM PST by Bobalu (Build the Wall. Deport them ALL)
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Bastards! If they were really worried about degrading battery they wouldn't slow the phones silently, but rather warn users and tell them they can get the old speed back with a battery replacement.

Apple did NOT SAY what this article claims was said. They are NOT slowing older iPhones down. It is certainly not to force users to buy a new iPhone.

From responsible journalists at AppleInsider:

"In its statement, Apple is referring to the iOS 10.2.1 update that solved the spurious shutdown issue, related to battery output voltage.

Responding to questions posed by AppleInsider, sources inside Apple engineering not authorized to speak on behalf of the company say that testing like benchmarking artificially loads the processor for an extended period of time. The "peaks" in power needed to run the benchmark used to test an iPhone with a chemically depleted battery can trip the mechanism Apple has implemented to prevent device shutdown in the event of a low-voltage situation."

In other words, the very testing to see if there is slowing triggers the slowdown on older iPhones due to them having older batteries which are put under high stress by Geek Bench testing. It’s sort of like the fallacy of "begging the question," in that the testing for an effect causes the very abnormal conditions which triggers the effect instead of testing to see if it exists in normal operations.

The AppleInsider article went on to say:

"A lengthy Reddit thread was started on Dec. 10, with several satellite threads spun off over the weekend. All of the threads had users claiming higher benchmark results after a battery replacement. While there is no universal improvement in benchmarks after a replacement, some additional users did confirm that their devices felt faster after a replacement.

As a side-effect of the thread, and consequent reporting of it, the conspiracy theory suggesting that Apple intentionally slows down older iPhones to force purchasing a new device has risen again. It has been conclusively proven that older iPhone hardware with an adequately functioning battery is no slower than it was at launch.

The issue continues to not be a Apple-led conspiracy to force users to buy new hardware. Apple is not slowing down older devices to convince users to buy a new one. If it did, the throttling would be permanent, and a new battery would not solve the issue.

A battery replacement through Apple costs $79."

Third-party battery replacement companies do it fo between $30 and $50. You can get a replacement battery and tool kit to do it yourself from Amazon for under $10. A YouTube video demonstrates how it can be done in under two minutes.

The upshot is, that older devices with older batteries may run slower, but older devices with replacement new batteries were just as fast as they were when new, thus shooting down the assertion that Apple was deliberately throttling older iPhones, delivering a degraded user experience, to induce owners into buying an upgrade iPhone.

Think about the lack of a sane advertising rationale that a company would have to degrade their users’ previous model, angering them, so they’re more likely to look at a competitor’s product that might not degrade for a replacement. Does that make any sane marketing sense? I doubt it.



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28 posted on 12/21/2017 2:47:45 AM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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So where are the Net Neutrality Libtards on this one?


30 posted on 12/21/2017 2:51:51 AM PST by Lysandru
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Bingo they got caught and are now making an excuse to make it sound reasonable. Haha!

People should say well if that was the case, then why did they opt not to tell anyone?


34 posted on 12/21/2017 3:11:06 AM PST by Enlightened1
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This reminds of the class action suit a few years ago against att. They would sell people high speed internet. Then over the course of time, they would dial down the speed then offer an even higher speed for a higher price; a speed that was nearly the same as the original you agreed to.


39 posted on 12/21/2017 3:40:00 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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A battery and the tools needed to change it are under $20 on eBay. Go to YouTube and search for replacing iPhone battery and see how to do it yourself.

It’s not evil to make a feature that extends your aging battery’s life. The article doesn’t say that your phone has been slowed down when the battery is charged fully and in good condition. It says that when the battery is running low, the phone slows down to extend its operating time. That’s a good feature.

Every phone should have that feature.


42 posted on 12/21/2017 3:53:30 AM PST by FXRP (Just me and the pygmy pony)
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Cell phones must have replacement hatteries and the shouldnt be more than about 20 bucks. The whole enterprise is built for planned obsolesence with no ability to keep a product for longer than 2-3 years..it is a racket....someday youll get a smart cell phone at 15 bucks with replaceable battery capability with universal wifi service and net ...not to mention free apps that dont spy on you...in the meantime..bow deeply and open that wallet.


44 posted on 12/21/2017 4:10:09 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find)
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The operating system slows down your device to prevent it from shutting down, Apple says, but only in cases of cold temperature, a low battery charge or very old batteries.

Like most so-called news, yet another click-bait article.

I've had an iPhone 6 for several years. A single charge is good for the day. On the rare occasions where the battery reserve actually gets low enough, the phone informs you it is going into power saving mode. With this mode engaged, the screen is dimmed to save power along with other power saving actions such as not actively fetching new mail in background. The alternative would be no power management and running down the battery to zero. Then people would whine about that.

48 posted on 12/21/2017 5:03:02 AM PST by Flick Lives (The FBI - Assassinating Presidents they don't like since 1963.)
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Not just planned obsolescence, they give ya forced obsolescence.
Pretty much in the same league as MS “giving” Windows 10 to unsuspecting 7 & 8 users.


50 posted on 12/21/2017 5:50:14 AM PST by LouieFisk
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So they are doing it all for me? God bless them! What would I do without Apple! /s


51 posted on 12/21/2017 5:55:02 AM PST by oil_dude
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IOW this is a product defect because there is no simply user battery switch system. (carry a spare battery)

class action suit in 3, 2, 1, .....


53 posted on 12/21/2017 6:03:35 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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