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AP FACT CHECK: Trump can't claim credit for zero jet deaths
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 01/02/18 | JOAN LOWY

Posted on 01/02/2018 4:07:15 PM PST by artichokegrower

There were no commercial passenger jet deaths anywhere in the world last year. It's a remarkable record, but is it fair for President Donald Trump to claim some of the credit?

The facts tell a different story. Global and U.S. commercial aviation deaths have been trending downward for more than a decade due to a variety of factors.

(Excerpt) Read more at santacruzsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2017review; aviation
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To: artichokegrower
Trump didn't exactly take credit but was sharing the good news

Looks like he was claiming some credit - why was last year the best and safest on record?

But that's Trump, and people knew that from the election. It didn't matter then, it doesn't matter now.

21 posted on 01/02/2018 4:38:36 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: cba123

ATC: Air Traffic Control


22 posted on 01/02/2018 4:40:07 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: cba123
If it goes up, it’s Trump’s fault.

If it goes down, he gets the credit.

That is the way the game is played, people.

It didn't go up. It didn't go down. It stayed the same. What credit is due under those circumstances.

23 posted on 01/02/2018 4:40:45 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: artichokegrower
And all this time, as with Global warming, I thought it was the incredible decline in pirates that was responsible for this good news.


24 posted on 01/02/2018 4:41:22 PM PST by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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To: DoughtyOne

Speaking of snail’s trails...

Where Trump trolls the MSM follows. ;-)


25 posted on 01/02/2018 4:42:39 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: cba123
ATC = Air Traffic Control.

Neither Trump nor his new policies had anything to do with the downward trend in aviation accident fatalities. But if he wants to take credit, eh, so what? Good that he is insisting on strictly enforcing the FAR's (Federal Aviation Regulations).

He better be careful, though. I've worked in the industry for more than 30 years and I promise you there will be deaths from mishaps in the future. Will he still want to take credit then?? If he really wants to affect real, sustained improvements he should look at reforming the FAA which has become nothing more than a Federal jobs program for the marginal players in the industry.

26 posted on 01/02/2018 4:42:53 PM PST by Redplum
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To: artichokegrower

Trump can't claim credit for zero jet deaths

I beg your pardon, President Trump can claim anything he dang well pleases. BTW, so can I.


27 posted on 01/02/2018 4:44:07 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: artichokegrower

My entirely subjective first reaction to this ammouncement is that it is a prelude to an entirely different announcement. The announcement is relatively banal and the facts it presents are relatively banal. Therefore IMHO Trump might be on the verge of announcing a real demonstrably changed statistic, such as “the number of federal indictments is up 900% over previous years’ rates.” And then hold the MSM’s feet to the fire if they omit reporting the announcement. The MSM would be hypocritical if it called attention to this announcement as not reporting change so much as a continuation of the status quo, and then ignoring an announcement containing a real change. I guess we will just wait and see...

BTW I noticed that the WH press seemed much more subdued today towards Sanders than some recent previous press conferences. Is the MSM finally backing off and taking Trump’s presidency seriously instead of just heaping scorn on it?


28 posted on 01/02/2018 4:45:04 PM PST by SteveH
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To: DoodleDawg

The President made a statement and folks ASSUME an absolute conclusion from it. He is living in people’s heads. Even people on this forum.....best President ever.


29 posted on 01/02/2018 4:47:14 PM PST by yadent
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To: Popman

Awwwww, if only he would STOP TWEETING, right?

The Fraud took credit for EVERYTHING good (not much) that happened during his illegal reign.

I’ll forgive President Trump for continuing to piss off Big Media.


30 posted on 01/02/2018 4:48:17 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: artichokegrower

AssPress (aka AmericanPravda) can’t claim credit for checking facts


31 posted on 01/02/2018 4:50:48 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: yadent
The President made a statement and folks ASSUME an absolute conclusion from it.

The President said last year was the best and safest year ever. What made it that?

32 posted on 01/02/2018 4:52:00 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoughtyOne

Those are fake headlines, the real ones they use read like grocery store checkout tabline headlines


33 posted on 01/02/2018 4:52:21 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: DoodleDawg

Did he say that he was responsible for the best and safest year or are YOU assuming that he took credit? His latest statement made 2 points. He did not connect those points, he let others assume the connection. Classic Trump.


34 posted on 01/02/2018 4:56:02 PM PST by yadent
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, anymore they do.

And sadly, those supermarket line tabloids, have MORE credibility. At least they get some things right, or at least some parts of things right..


35 posted on 01/02/2018 4:58:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I don’t see him taking credit. He might be implying it, but he certainly did state so.

“Since taking office I have been very strict on Commercial Aviation. Good news - it was just reported that there were Zero deaths in 2017, the best and safest year on record!”


36 posted on 01/02/2018 5:01:33 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: treetopsandroofs

Er...no...

I love Trumps tweets.

I just wish he would a bit more judicious in the way he would use it...


37 posted on 01/02/2018 5:11:28 PM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: artichokegrower

I’m inclined to agree...not *full* credit at least.However,we all know that the guy who claimed the power to stop the rise of sea levels wouldn’t hesitate to claim *full* credit...over,and over,and over again.


38 posted on 01/02/2018 5:13:35 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Remember: All Cultures Are Equal!)
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To: artichokegrower

They would have given Zero the credit in a heartbeat.


39 posted on 01/02/2018 5:25:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>>They would have given Zero the credit in a heartbeat.

We haven’t had a fatality in the US since 2009. I can’t say I have heard anyone given any credit for no fatalities in the years 2010 to 2016. Can you cite a case where Obama was given credit for that?

This actually seems like a risky statement for the President to make, as he now has responsibility for any commercial aviation crash that takes place anywhere in the world in the next three years.


40 posted on 01/02/2018 7:01:59 PM PST by oincobx
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