Posted on 01/25/2018 6:23:12 PM PST by gubamyster
“...they would still be on his actual device, even if he deleted them.”
Not if Hellary’s hammers and bleach and rags got to them.
We can expect bad behavior from bad people. But when the good guys are bad, we're all in trouble.
I'm seriously wondering if there is anyone at DOJ or FBI anymore that can be trusted? Reminds me of a few years ago a friend indicated that her son worked at the FBI and they did a lot of wiretapping--apparently the routine was to start the paperwork, do the wiretapping, then finish and submit the paperwork if it was only worth pursuing. So much for our rights. A den of liars, cover for each other.
“....fake news to dilute the Strzok/Page texts.”
I tend to agree with that. You couldn’t have a case where only one single guy had a deletion problem....it had to be a minimum of 1,000. I’m guessing the Samsung folks stood there when this was first mentioned in public and felt bewilderment, shame, etc....then they wanted to understand how this was possible, and in hours the whole story fell apart.
You’d have to be a total idiot to believe that when something is deleted....it’s gone forever. And once you cross emails through different servers...there’s various copies sitting around. The days of no-back-up capability are long gone.
But I will suggest this....90-percent of this 50,000 message base will be gossip, sexually suggestive stuff, chat over DC Metro subway, and clothing styles. Whoever gets poked to go and read all 50,000 is going to miserable for six weeks as they seek to categorize the texts. In the end, both Page and Strzok will look like 12-year-old kids in behavior.
Words to live by.
“This is getting confusing. Trump appointed Wrey as FBI Director. Is Wrey back stabbing Trump too? How about Mike Pompeo? Director of the CIA, he’s been real quiet and under the radar. I wonder who’s side he’s on. Who is in charge of the NSA now, and is he/she loyal to the american people and Trump?”
My theory is (and you can’t dissuade me of it) is that as each new incoming director/head, etc. of a Dept. comes into office (like CIA, NSA, FBI, etc.) they are sat down by the surrounding bureaucratic 2nd layer flunkies who have been there forever, and told by inference what the various bureau’s, dept’s have on them dirt-wise. From that point on, the new heads are compromised and held hostage to the Dept’s they now head. In other words, blackmail. Hence their silence (Jeff Sessions is a prime example). Wanna bet I’m right?
Need to have people losing their careers, pensions, and some seeing prison time.
The FBI and the Justice Department are under the control of the Attorney General, Mr. Sessions. The top of the FBI and the Justice Department (Sessions excepted) would have squashed the effort to retrieve these messages.
The messages are being retrieved. This makes me think Sessions is really in control and circumventing the corruption at the top. When the time is right and I think it is but weeks he will lower the hammer after the Memo and the IG report becomes public.
Sessions is not asleep at the wheel.
The Democrats will scream this is a republican memo. At this point I would expect President Trump to declassify the raw data supporting the Memo and the IGs work.
Bring popcorn. It will be fun.
Sessions, Rosenstein, Boyd and Wray are hapless prisoners of their bureaucracies.
They would have known about the missing texts since August. But they did nothing except take the word of their bureaucrats that the texts were “nonrecoverable”.
When the OIG’s own people were allowed to try to recover texts, they did in two days what the FBI could not do in 7 months !
I want to know if the OIG requested if his people could attempt to recover texts prior to this week.
And I want to now if the FBI/DOJ refused permission.
If they did refuse permission, Sessions, Rosenstein, Wray and Boyd should all be FIRED !
Not all are blackmailed. Look at the huge amount of good work done by Pruitt at the EPA. Pompeo at CIA is probably fine too, not heard of because the CIA is not supposed to deal with domestic affairs.
As to Wray, he was more a Christie’s pick than a Trump’s pick and he behavior so far has been despicable. Just less despicable than Sessions’.
> Whoever gets poked to go and read all 50,000 is going to miserable for six weeks as they seek to categorize the texts. In the end, both Page and Strzok will look like 12-year-old kids in behavior.
I tend to agree with that. :-)
Comments BUMP!
As a last resort, considering the corruption that runs so deep, the USMC would be my choice. Add some one way tickets to Gitmo and tribunals all around. There is no longer room for 'civil' authority, the rot is that entrenched.
I would also like to see, since I'm dreaming here, a Marine contingent precede our President to the SOTU. Have them file in and secure the exits at the bewilderment of our feckless treasonous seditious con-gress peoples while PDJT reads a list of names and cell assignments. Advise them ALL that their co-conspirators are being rounded up as he speaks. I'll finish my coffee now and wake TF up!
This is the likely response:
{Senate Judicial Committee, FBI Director Christopher Wray, witness}
Senator Grassley: “Did you lie to congress?”
Director Wray: “I’m afraid I can’t answer that, Dave.”
You made me start thinking.
Since the phones had all the text all along, what if the whole “Texts missing” story was a lie in order to SCRUB the phones of any incriminating data and THEN say they found them?
They could present the entire message collection as complete, without admitting they “lost” not all—but “some” of the messages?
Where’s/who’s the chain of custody?
They lied about one thing to save themselves and that means they’ll lie about ANYTHING to save themselves.
Think about it folks!
If a politician is speaking - I assume he/she is lying until otherwise proven
> “Texts missing” story was a lie in order to SCRUB the phones of any incriminating data and THEN say they found them?
Anything is possible :-) It was reported that it was the IG who ‘found’ them, not the FBI or DOJ.
However: from Fox News (who broke the story 2 days ago)
“Senior Department of Justice officials told Fox News they are “taking steps” to possibly recover the texts from the appropriate cellphone carriers. The same officials told Fox News they are also making every effort to track down the physical cellphones in question so they could be subject to a forensic review.”
I’m thinking “Senior DOJ officials” may be Rosenstein, who also doesn’t want anyone to see the ‘Memos’. I don’t think the IG is part of that cabal. (but I could be wrong)
And... if someone wanted to ‘scrub’ them, they missed a few good ones that extend the story even more.
Reading the ‘lost’ ones...
... I’d like to know who Bill, Jim, Laufman, Dina, Eric, Carlin, Dana and George are :-) We KNOW who Andy is. lol....
It might be easier and cheaper to charge them with a crime and bleed them dry. But who will arrest them — the FBI?
It might be easier and cheaper to charge them with a crime and bleed them dry. But who will arrest them — the FBI?
Bill is Bill Priestap, Stroke’s boss.
Thanks... I did hear that today on Rush.
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