Posted on 02/02/2018 10:30:44 PM PST by TBP
While the discredited FBI lead counter-intelligence agent Peter Strzok and his mistress, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, discussed forming a “secret society” which they now claim was a joke, there is a Sept. 20, 2017, article in True Pundit which describes how six U.S. intelligence agencies formed a “Stealth Task Force” headed by CIA Director John Brennan to run the unauthorized surveillance on Trump associates and possibly against Mr. Trump himself.
According to the article, after being denied two FISA court warrants applications, this group used the British spy element, headed by Robert Hannigan, embedded at NSA, Ft. George Meade, Md. Why this UK spy element? Because they were not constrained by needing a FISA warrant to wiretap Americans; it’s believed this activity commenced in November 2015, well before the compilation of the discredited Trump dossier.
The next step in the plan was a meeting set up by the DOJ and the FBI in Trump Tower among Paul Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., son-in-law Jared Kushner and a Russian female lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskasya. She should have been known as a high security risk, given that she earlier was banned from entering either the U.S. or U.K.
Not to worry: Attorney General Loretta Lynch arranged to have a visa granted to her for the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower. After the sham meeting, the British spy agency, acting as an intelligence front for NSA, could then plausibly justify wiretapping Trump associates because the Russian lawyer was a known security risk. The real question is, how much of the information gained from these “tainted” wiretaps is Special Counsel Robert Mueller using in his probe of alleged Russian-Trump collusion in the 2016 presidential election? In fact, this entire setup has all the earmarks of a KGB operation.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Geez he’s embarrassing himself how many people does he need to tell him that it’s pretty much a consensus the FISA Warrant was granted on the fake dossier. That stupid story about the Aussie is even less of a reason to grant a FISA warrant. That’s just as bad.
I’ve no words for this one.
Are you posting this HOAX document again? WTF is your problem? Just because the ‘RATS pull this crap doesn’t mean WE have to do the same.
I agree with your post, but no one here should be surprised that the FISA Court process was abused by political partisans.
It was absolutely inevitable—if this group of dirtbags didn’t do it some other group of dirtbags would have done it a later date.
Spying on Americans is bad policy and will burn us every time.
The plot thickens. We need to start building gallows on the national mall in D.C. for all the public hangings of the Obama-Clinton coup leaders.
So, if you think it is, instead of being ignorantly rude, why don't you share link(s) to show that it is a hoax. A little politeness instead of p1ssing all over the discussion would go a long ways. Unless you're just wanting to be an idiot.
Chris Wallace was the first Deep State defense team spokesman that FOX News trotted out after the FISA Memo was released. He was absolutely disgraceful.
“The next step in the plan was a meeting set up by the DOJ and the FBI in Trump Tower among Paul Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., son-in-law Jared Kushner and a Russian female lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskasya.”
Can anyone on FR provide documentation that DJT, Sr. knew of and approved this meeting of the above people with the Russian person or that he was unaware of this meeting being held without his knowledge and approval? I have not seen discussion of that but then I have not seen everything.
If DJT, Sr. was unaware that this meeting was conducted without his knowledge, I wonder what he had to say to son & son-in-law when he became aware of what they had done without his knowledge and/or approval?
I am wondering about this since I have not seen any news or articles of his awareness of or concurrence with this meeting taking place. If anyone here on FR can point me to an article that says he knew or did not know, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks...
No Jerkoff, if you post a hoax don’t expect me to prove it’s a hoax for you. YOU should post its authentication.
I normally don’t respond to people who think something must be true until it’s proven to be false.
from the article by Lyons:
According to the article, after being denied two FISA court warrants applications, this group used the British spy element, headed by Robert Hannigan, embedded at NSA, Ft. George Meade, Md. Why this UK spy element? Because they were not constrained by needing a FISA warrant to wiretap Americans; it’s believed this activity commenced in November 2015, well before the compilation of the discredited Trump dossier.
strictly propaganda from The Guardian, but worth noting:
13 Apr 2017: Guardian: British spies were first to spot Trump team’s links with Russia
Exclusive: GCHQ is said to have alerted US agencies after becoming aware of contacts in 2015
by Luke Harding, Stephanie Kirchgaessner and Nick Hopkins
According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia
TheCipherBrief: The Cyber Advisory Board
Meetings are expertly moderated by General Michael V. Hayden, former Director of the NSA and CIA...
Suzanne Kelly CEO & Publisher, The Cipher Brief
Advisory Board includes:
General Michael Hayden, Former Director, CIA and NSA
General Hayden is a retired four-star General in the United States Air Force; he was the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2006-2009 and the Director of the National Security Agency from 1999-2005...
Robert Hannigan, Former Director, GCHQ
Robert Hannigan was Director of GCHQ, the UK’s largest intelligence agency and NSA equivalent from 2014-17. He was a member of the National Security Council. He established the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre in 2016 and was responsible, with military colleagues, for the UK’s offensive cyber program. He retired recently after a long career in national security, including as Tony Blair’s lead official on the Northern Ireland peace process. He was the Prime Minister’s Security Adviser from 2007-2010, focusing on Islamist terrorism, and a long-standing member of the UK’s Joint Intelligence Committee. He is one of the few non-US nationals to have been awarded the National Intelligence Distinguished Public Service Medal...
Dmitri Alperovitch, Co-Founder and CTO, Crowdstrike
Dmitri Alperovitch is the Co-Founder and CTO of CrowdStrike Inc. In 2016, Alperovitch revealed Russian intelligence agencies’ hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), events which unveiled the full scope of cyber influence operations being launched against the 2016 US Election. Alperovitch is currently a Senior Fellow at Harvard Kennedy School’s Belfer Center’s Defending Digital Democracy Project and a Senior Fellow at Atlantic Council. He has served on the board of Georgia Tech Information Security Center (GTISC) Industry Advisory Board and currently serves on the RSA Conference Advisory Board...
Michael Sulmeyer, Director, Belfer Center’s Cyber Security Project, Harvard University
Michael Sulmeyer is the Belfer Center’s Cyber Security Project Director at the Harvard Kennedy School. He is also a Contributing Editor for Lawfare. Before Harvard, he served as the Director for Plans and Operations for Cyber Policy in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. There, he worked closely with the Joint Staff and Cyber Command on a variety of efforts to counter malicious cyber activity against U.S. and DoD interests. For this work, he received the Secretary Medal for Exceptional Public Service. Previously, he worked on arms control and the maintenance of strategic stability between the United States, Russia, and China.
https://www.thecipherbrief.com/cyber-advisory-board
LinkedIn: Suzanne Kelly, CEO & Publisher at The Cipher Brief
Previous, AragornCo, ACADEMI, CNN
Prior to founding The Cipher Brief, Kelly was the Intelligence Correspondent for CNN, where she co-founded, co-developed and served as co-editor of CNN’s national security website... She spent nine years working as a news anchor for CNN International based in both Atlanta, Georgia and Berlin, Germany...
Freelance Foreign Correspondent
Marketplace on NPR, Voice of America, CNN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzanne-kelly-ba737927
connect dots between names, connections of some of the Advisory Board at Cipher Brief and the following:
30 Jan: Harvard: Wanted: A firewall to protect U.S. elections
Major bipartisan Harvard initiative seeks safeguards to ensure future voting integrity
By Christina Pazzanese, Harvard Staff Writer
As the FBI and Congress work to unravel Russia’s hacking of the 2016 presidential election and learn whether anyone in Donald Trump’s campaign supported the effort, one thing has become clear: U.S. elections are far more vulnerable to manipulation than was thought...
Now, as federal and state officials are partnering to examine voting and election security, a new initiative at Harvard Kennedy School (HKS) is working to shore up another at-risk component of the U.S. election system: political campaigns.
Led by former presidential campaign managers for Democrat Hillary Clinton and Republican Mitt Romney, the Defending Digital Democracy project is gathering cybersecurity experts from the U.S. Department of Defense, the National Security Agency, and the Department of Homeland Security, as well as private-sector internet heavyweights like Facebook, Google, and the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike, to identify problems and share pragmatic wisdom with local, state, and federal campaigns so they are better informed about cyber threats and can make their organizations harder for attackers to infiltrate.
“It’s really important that this is a bipartisan effort,” said Eric Rosenbach, the project’s director and a former cybersecurity leader at the Pentagon...
“That’s what we’ve got to do in politics, and that’s why Matt and I believed it was so important to take a bipartisan approach,” said Robby Mook, who managed Clinton’s 2016 campaign. Mook will lead the project along with Matt Rhoades, who ran Romney’s 2012 presidential bid...
The idea for the project stemmed from Rosenbach’s experience as the Defense Department’s lead on cybersecurity issues during his time as chief of staff to Defense Secretary Ash Carter from 2015 to January 2017...
“One of the things that I’ve found incredibly challenging is the whole nature and structure of these campaigns,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder and chief technology officer of CrowdStrike, the firm that first identified Russian hackers as behind the DNC email server breach...
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2018/01/wanted-a-firewall-to-protect-u-s-elections
I’m just curious, where SHOULD we go for fact-checking? It does seem a bit odd that such a supposedly secure document just got leaked like that. At the least it should have gone out as “The latest from Julian Assange” or some such attribution. But even then, someone might split it off from its attribution.
In the meantime a little charity would behoove all. If getting the Trump side fighting each other is as easy as spraying out a faux document, then a lot of it will happen.
What????
is this thing for real or what... maybe fr needs its own trusted fact-check resources, as there’s a vigorous debate about its authenticity going around. it sure would be easy for the lefties to troll us with such things in the wake of the nunes memo.....
AUDIO: 1 Feb: NPR: Morning Edition: Ex-CIA Director Hayden Weighs In On Republican Surveillance Memo
RACHEL MARTIN: As you see it, what’s the problem with making this memo public?
EX-CIA DIRECTOR MICHAEL HAYDEN: Oh, my. Where to begin? The FISA process is a very tightly controlled, almost sacred, in a certain sense of the word, process.
MARTIN: This is how you get permission to survey Americans.
HAYDEN: You get the warrant to go up and begin surveillance of a protected person, an American citizen or someone in the United States. And the normal dialogue is between career intelligence or and law enforcement professionals and an Article III court, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Court. It is the part of intelligence all of which should push politics to the side. It is the part of intelligence that most needs to keep politics out of the process. And here we have now an injection of hyper partisanship into that process, and I just fear the great damage that will be done to institutions including oversight committees in the Congress, including the presidency and of course, obviously, the FBI...
READ THE REST OR LISTEN
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/01/582338649/ex-cia-director-hayden-weighs-in-on-republican-memo
Later
You are correct, good to consider validity. This was shared by someone earlier this week and nowhere then was it questioned, I just thought to again share it here. By biggest reaction—and you were polite—was another ignorant, rude comment all too-typical of some people on FR who don’t know how to be polite, think first words off keyboard should shout their boorish behavior, sometimes to simply shut down conversation. As you say, and more clearly, people need to be polite and respectful. First, last, and always. I’m tired of seeing people through out insults as first comment. And the person who did above in this thread has been around long enough to know better.
Btt
I read four agencies:
DOJ
FBI
CIA
NSA
what were the other two?
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