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Parkland Officer’s Hesitation To Stop Shooting Fits A Pattern Of Police Cowardice
The Federalist ^ | 2/23/18 | Michael Graham

Posted on 02/23/2018 5:52:00 AM PST by Sopater

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To: Sopater

I realize this story is from the UK, but........

“Man drowned in shallow lake after firefighters ‘not allowed’ to rescue him

Charity shop worker died in Gosport, Hampshire, after rescuers said they could not enter water for health and safety reasons”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/feb/22/man-drowned-lake-firefighters


41 posted on 02/23/2018 7:09:16 AM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: incredulous joe; Silly

Don’t be Silly, that might discourage the next one!


42 posted on 02/23/2018 7:10:32 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: ichabod1

You and I are not being paid to do it, if you(one) can’t do the job, you(one) shouldn’t seek out the job.

Find a job you can do, and don’t work as a fraud.


43 posted on 02/23/2018 7:13:38 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: JusPasenThru; Lazamataz
Spread it around, the HTML code is:

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44 posted on 02/23/2018 7:16:29 AM PST by null and void ("If you see something say something." "If we say something *DO* something!!!")
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To: Mr. K

“hmmmm.... In other words he ran and hid.”

Yes, it’s really a “different situation” when a cop isn’t the only one with a gun isn’t it. What I think is this guy had a “cushy job” being a School Resource Officer, thinking he’d never have to face real trouble. But then, oopsy, it happened, and he found out that he was, in point of fact, a coward. Either that or the BCSO’s motto is “to protect and to serve, ourselves!”


45 posted on 02/23/2018 7:23:46 AM PST by vette6387
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ill never forget watching Columbine go down...that was the worst...those 2 idiots just wandered around..taking their sweet time killing.


46 posted on 02/23/2018 7:32:12 AM PST by basalt
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To: Sopater

bkmk


47 posted on 02/23/2018 7:34:54 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: Sopater
The "Cop" in action...
48 posted on 02/23/2018 7:36:03 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Sopater
My bottom line from we know currently about the Parkland atrocity:
1. The Deputy could hear the crack of the rifle moving around from building to building. That should have given the Cop the ability to duck and cover while moving towards the shooter.
2. Some have said it would be suicide for him to advance on a semi-auto rifle with only his handgun and no backup. Too bad.
3. Yes, he did the minimal of his duty by calling in the incident and describing the perimeter. He did not and could not create a perimeter as reported, being one man in such a large area.
4. He sat there when we could have been following the gun blasts and maneuvering into position for at least an attempt.
5. Most importantly, these were children being torn apart and killed. What armed man wouldn't at least try to get close so his handgun could make a difference.
6. Then their is the argument that if the lone Deputy exchanged gunfire with the assailant, more kids could have been killed in the cross-fire. Well, because he didn't even try, more kids WERE killed. At the very least, the Deputy could have distracted the shooter while backup was coming.
7. This was not a hostage situation like bank robbery where they wait for negotiators and don't want to storm the building if no one has been killed. There were opportunities for the Deputy while the shooter was moving from class room building to the next.

I'm sick of this motto that the Cops have to go home safe. When did they stop laying their lives on the line? I've read, seen, watched years of the COP shows, and one or two would breech homes with a reported shooter.

If the initials reports are true, this Cop was a coward or incompetent. I've was only a lowly aviation sailor, but I know I would have made an effort crawling along ground and the looking for the first opportunity to divert his attention from the kids and buy time for backup. If it meant me being killed, so be it. They were children for gawd sake.

I first became disgruntled with some LEOs while watching them pull out of ground zero in the Rodney King LA riots. The city experienced a literal hell from that crappy decision. Then there is Ferguson and Baltimore. Need I go on?

I believe many LE departments have gone soft on their patrol types and rely too much on SWAT. Marines, Army Infantry, Army Delta, SEALs all move forward to the sound of gunfire, if even just one.

What are policeman for nowadays? Writing tickets and domestic disturbances? While watching COPS, we are often amazed how quickly they body slam someone down just because the perp tensed his arm, which is a sub-conscience reaction. Then when down and with large cop knees weighing on the perp's back, they keep yelling, "Stop resisting" because the guy or girl couldn't get their arm out from under their body. Of course there are many times they DO resist and get what hey deserve. However, we see many times the Cops talk some down and resolve the dispute peacefully and maybe with no arrests. Yes, most of the perps are trash and the cops find drugs and weapons. But I do think some Cops over-react. In this case, the Deputy under-reacted. Again, children!

Like President Trump mentioned to a widow, "He knew what he was getting into". Of course, better phrasing would have been, "He knew what he volunteered for has has our upmost respect" The Deputy knew he should put his life on the line to protect our children. He didn't according to reports. We'll see if the above reports are true and any extenuating circumstance that kept the Deputy from moving in.

49 posted on 02/23/2018 7:38:04 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: ichabod1
I’m probably going to get flamed for this, but making a frontal assault, alone, against an unknown shooter or shooters, with no backup sounds like a good way to get deaded. I don’t know that I’d have done it either.

Then what good is it to arm teachers and staff if there is no reason to believe that they wouldn't take the same course of action?

50 posted on 02/23/2018 7:42:26 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: mewzilla
A coward, but because he was afraid for his own skin? Or afraid of lawsuits?

Either way, if he's too scared to do his job then he is too cowardly to be a police officer.

51 posted on 02/23/2018 7:43:39 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: libertylover
Any teacher who wants to carry should be allowed to after proper training. Maybe they could be deputized for in-school purposes.

Why should we expect a middle-aged social studies teacher to confront the shooter if a trained and experienced police officer would not?

52 posted on 02/23/2018 7:45:24 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Liz

And this has what to do with the Florida cop? Was he Somali as well?


53 posted on 02/23/2018 7:47:10 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: A Navy Vet
"2. Some have said it would be suicide for him to advance on a semi-auto rifle with only his handgun and no backup. Too bad."

Good thing Steve Scalise's security detail was not of this mindset.

54 posted on 02/23/2018 7:49:35 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: goldstategop
"Police officers don’t want to act if they shoot a suspect and are left out to hang to dry by their brass."

Tough shit. They are there to take the bullet for innocent civilians. I highly doubt that Deputy would have been hung out to dry if he made the smallest effort to move in on the shooter. He would be a hero (maybe a dead one) if he just tried to move closer to the shooter. He could have even popped off a couple rounds in the air behind a safe barrier which most likely would have diverted the shooters attention to himself and given more time for backup. What higher calling than to die for our children?

If the reports are true, he will go down as a coward or incompetent. We'll see.

55 posted on 02/23/2018 7:55:11 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: null and void; incredulous joe
'The Coward Scott Peterson"

BRANDED


56 posted on 02/23/2018 7:57:09 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen)
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To: A Navy Vet
If the reports are true, he will go down as a coward or incompetent. We'll see.

He was assigned to this school for years. Should have been very well trained to take out a shooter. Problem is, many of these cops assigned to schools think of it as a soft pre-retirement job, not a position that you need to be ever vigilant.

57 posted on 02/23/2018 7:58:50 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: DoodleDawg

Get outta here.....stop being so dam anal.


58 posted on 02/23/2018 8:04:06 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: DoodleDawg

That coach gave his life unarmed to try to save kids

And he’s not the first in these instances

The Austin tower shooter is the first example I recall.....read up on it from unbiased sourcing

The problem is the cops in general and protocol and that includes SWAT or SORT

They don’t hurry in either

See Orlando gay club

I have as much or more faith in average grown man as the police in 2018


59 posted on 02/23/2018 8:04:39 AM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Spok
Heroes are where you find them. Google “Rodger Wilton Young”,

I remember in our music class we sang a song that paid tribute to him. It was a different time.

60 posted on 02/23/2018 8:05:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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