Posted on 02/27/2018 12:55:41 PM PST by Puppage
HARTFORD, Conn. (WTNH) — Saying 76 percent of state residents support the idea, Democratic leaders at the State Capitol are pushing for Connecticut to become the 12th state to approve a compact calling for the elimination of the Electoral College for electing U.S. Presidents.
They say the Electoral College is an outdated relic of the past.
U.S. Presidents are elected by winning the most states with the most electoral votes. Electoral votes are determined by the size of a state’s Congressional delegation.
California has 55 electoral votes, while Connecticut has just seven.
“There’s no other office in this country, other than the President of the United States, where the person who gets the most votes doesn’t win that office,” said State Senator Mae Flexer (D) with the Government Administration and Elections Committee. “It’s just not right and it’s time for that to change.”
Last year, Republican Donald Trump lost the popular vote to Democrat Hillary Clinton, but won the Electoral College.
This also happened in 2000 when George W. Bush lost the popular vote to Democrat Al Gore but won the Electoral College.
Article 1 Section 10:
“No State shall, without the Consent of Congress... ...enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State...”
You could basically accomplish what they want without a Constitutional amendment. If all 50 states and DC agree to award their electoral votes to the winner of the nationwide popular vote then that's the same as doing away with the Electoral College. Nothing prevents that. The Constitution says that the electors will meet in their state, it doesn't say how those electors are chosen. Traditionally it's been through popular vote, but South Carolina allowed its legislature to pick the electors up until the Civil War.
From what I've seen of the state from I-84/I-91/I-95...and what little I've seen of Downtown Hartford...that seems to be largely correct.But what I've seen of Darien,New Canaan and Greenwich I'd be willing to live in $hitholes like them.
“There’s no other office in this country, other than the President of the United States, where the person who gets the most votes doesn’t win that office,”
Can’t anybody around here play this game?
As far as I know, all other elected offices are internal to a State and/or internal to the polities under the authority of a State. The President and Vice President of the United States are the only elected government officials external to the States. (I know, those in Congress are part of the Federal Government, but they are elected internal to the individual States, representing the people of their State and the State itself.)
As Sovereign States within the Federal Union, the States as entities of their own get a say in the election of the President.
It’s the United States of America, not the United People of America.
“Consent of Congress” is all that is required. There are many ‘compacts and agreements’ between states. ‘New York-New Jersey Port Authority’ is a famous one.
This needs to be widely known and understood.
There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57.
There are 62 counties in New York State.
Trump won 46 of them.
Clinton won 16.
Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.
In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens)
Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)
Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.
These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.
The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.
When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.
Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!
And...it’s been verified and documented that those aforementioned 319 square miles are where the majority of our nation’s problems foment.
Yup,that's the one.Regarding "without the Consent of Congress" I've wondered how the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PANYNJ) came to be.That's the entity that controls bridges,tunnels and trains between NYC and New Jersey.Either it doesn't qualify as a "compact" or it got the consent of Congress.
Not surprisingly, the USSC basically has given the OK to any such agreements unless Congress specifically objects.
Now run those numbers again with legal US citizens.
You can’t, because in those big cities _they cheat_.
No-one would touch a poker game as rigged as urban voting.
The country is the “United States” of America, and it is a republic, not a “democracy”.
The federal President is, by way of the electoral college, elected by “the states”, having won the most delegates - members of the electoral college, REPRESENTING the states.
The voters in the states indirectly determine the outcome by determining how majorities in their state vote.
The age of this tried and true system does not make it any more “wrong” than is the Ten Commandments.
“The people” have their “democratic” representation in their own state governments. They have it too in the U.S. House of Representatives and, even now in the U.S. Senate (which also was intended to have members chosen by the states’ legislators.). There is nothing “better” about the tyranny of the majority at every level with no checks against it.
Whenever people give me crap for living in MA I always point them to CT and RI.
It also restricts voter fraud to the district where it occurs, meaning you can't stuff ballots in Broward county and win the state of Florida.
I got nuth’n.
Party primaries use the same system as Electoral College, using delegates.System developed by Alexander Hamilton—hero of a Broadway show loved by the Left (they shamed Pence when he attended(
The Electoral College is a genesis creation by our Founding Fathers. The United States of America is a republic, not a democracy.
Amen FRiend.
I think Connecticut is an outdated relic of the past. Connecticut and Rhode Island should be merged with Massachusetts so they only send two retarded baboons to the U.S. Senate instead of six.
America can never submit to the rule of the leftist California and New York Ameritrash.
The problem is that such a "compact" is legally unenforceable. We can all be damn sure that states like Connecticut and California will NEVER allocate their electoral votes to a Republican president who didn't get the most votes in those states.
These hare-brained schemes are all done through state legislatures. Since there is a 6-7 week gap between Election Day in November and the date of the Electoral College vote in December, there is nothing that prevents a state legislature from backing out of this "compact" after the votes have already been cast but before the electors are sent for the EC vote.
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