Nolte: How Close Is America to Outright Gun Confiscation? Very Close.

BREITBART ^ | 5 Mar 2018 | John Nolte

[Hugh the Scot]

"doctors and costs have exploded."

[Hugh the Scot]

Wrong.

[BOBWADE]

This last school shooting was a tragedy. But you can lay it at the feet of liberal idealism. The ill conceived and irresponsible promise program that allowed that punk to have 39 Second Chances without a single arrest. Had law enforcement done its job only once and arrested him. He would not have obtained that AR-15 legally.

[Hugh the Scot]

My God man, please just stop....

You’ve never seen asymmetric warfare.

If you had, you wouldn’t be embarrassing yourself here.

[TexasGunLover]

Get a self reliant life in the country.

Have never had anything but... However, you over-estimate how many folks will risk the lives of their children, when push comes to shove. Hopefully, we'll never find out.

[TexasGunLover]

But we really don't need to be worrying about TGL as he will be comfortably ensconced at home planning on sitting any unpleasantries[sic] out. Little does he know what his fate will be if CWII should ever break out (Total Resistance is brutal when it comes to not only collaborators but also to non-supporters of the resistance.)

My arsenal will do little good against tanks and armored vehicles. So will yours.

[wgmalabama]

I will go to the grave over my god given rights. I suspect we are closer to citizen militias openly opposing the government than we are of confiscation. Maybe I’m delusional and it will be just be 3 of us ( me myself and I) armed and fighting but I don’t think so.

The way civility is breaking down who knows.

[unread]

"Let us see how the government plans on stopping illegal guns from flooding across the borders once they disarm us. Just as successful at stopping illegal drugs and aliens?"

The flow of invaders and drugs is being done on purpose, with malice of forethought... The commies are using those means to bring us down.... It's working.

[BobL]

Sorry, I just DO NOT TRUST Hillary and the Democrats to protect our Second Amendment rights...which is what all the ‘no need to worry’ bunch is telling me to do.

They WILL take our guns in 5 minutes, once they feel it’s safe. You may want to listen in on some of their planning sessions if you don’t believe that.

[Alas Babylon!]

Read my post again. I did not over-estimate. I said the gubmint doesn’t have to physically confiscate your guns, but rather electronically freeze your assets until you bring them to them voluntarily.

I actually heard a gun-grabber on TV explain in an interview how the gubmint could take our guns without having to send in armed men. Just ruin us until we comply.

If you have a life in the country like you and I do, we don’t have to worry about having no money to eat, but rather grow our own food.

[Hugh the Scot]

I agree with you. The plan is to disarm us before killing us...

I do however, disagree that it will be easy, or that force superiority guarantees the outcome.

FReegards,
_H.

[Mafe]

It’s already happening with marijuana. Marijuana is federally illegal, but has that stopped the states from legalizing it anyway?

There’s a difference between enforcing a policy on a state government vs. enforcing it on millions of citizens. The example you cite is the Feds enforcing a policy on the Arizona state government. Marijuana (and gun) prohibition is the Feds trying to enforce a policy on millions of individuals, without state help. By the way - West Virginia recently became a Second Amendment sanctuary state.

And another thing, there are about as many guns in the US as there are people. If the Feds don’t have the manpower and resources to enforce marijuana laws, they sure don’t have the manpower or resources to enforce a gun ban. There’s a reason Washington depends on the state governments to help enforce all of its laws - because Washington has become so big and bloated that it needs help enforcing its own laws.

[BobL]

“I do however, disagree that it will be easy, or that force superiority guarantees the outcome.”

I’d think you’d agree that Leftists are NOT dumb. For example, it takes PURE GENIUS to be able to convince half of the this country that there is nothing wrong with PERVERTS (i.e., men who claim to identify as women) to be in girls’ locker rooms - but they have done just that.

So, as far as taking on gun owners - it will be a relatively slow process - a bit more difficult here, a bit of a hassle there. But slowly and surely, more and more gun owners will decide that’s it’s simply not worth the trouble (such as unannounced ‘visits’ from pigs to make sure you have your firearms secured). And so the number of gun owners decrease and decrease...until we’re left with several thousand ‘cold, dead, fingers’...and the government will deal with them quite quickly, and probably, very quietly.

People on our side think that there will be some type of Paul Revere SHOUTING FROM THE HILLS that they’re coming for our guns. It won’t happen that way, until the very end - the Left is not that dumb. They will ‘peacefully’ take the guns that they can peacefully, and continue that for many years, probably decades...until we’re too weak to ‘resist’, and then they’ll get the rest.

[Blue Jays]

"...little by little, until gunowners lose their political power..."

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BobL, your series of posts on this thread are rational, thoughtful, and reality-based for typical citizens.
People like to write about “big shootouts” with evil socialist gungrabbers...yet we agree that is NOT how confiscation would happen.
Most of us are loathe to engage in warfare with fellow Americans and don’t relish the idea.

Big Government will make mere possession of firearms in your own home (even with no other crime) punishable by a mandatory 10-year prison sentence...or more
While no biggie to gangbangers...that would be a nightmare to suburban gunowners with families, friends, homes, and terrific well-paid jobs.
In short, we have meaningful things for which to have a future. Gangbangers typically expect to die by the time they are 25 y.o. with a dismal outlook.

Plus, one can bet reportage about the “initial holdouts” will be that they were raided due to flouting the “safety” confiscation.
Those gunowners will be “reported” to be in possession of meth, child porn, anthrax, nuclear bombs, embezzled money, and with comprehensive plans to assassinate every living POTUS, congressman, Lady Gaga, the Tooth Fairy, and even Santa Claus.

A retraction of the initial report would be printed a month later, in the classifieds section, in Section D, page 47 of the newspaper.
We simply must “keep up the fight” by keeping good and patriotic Americans voting on our side.

[BobL]

Thanks! Appreciate your posting (and defense of me).

Sadly many thousands, perhaps millions, of Americans figure that once a certain threshold is crossed (i.e., triggering episode) that serious Second Amendment supporters will put on their camo’s, arm up, and head into battle.

The problem, though, is what is that ‘triggering episode’? Is it a limit on magazine capacity, or a law that makes it tougher to justify self-defense, or a 100% tax on ammo? Or is it a proclamation by President Hillary that anything more than a BB gun must be turned in?

Unfortunately, Hillary’s proclamation will not take place UNTIL gun owners have no means to effectively resist. She, and the Dems, are NOT DUMB, they will NOT call-in the guns out of the blue - they will turn the screws, until the point that resisters are obvious and small in number, and thus have no chance of fighting back effectively.

So it all comes down to LEGISLATION and JUDICIAL REVIEW. If those two don’t go our way, the Second Amendment is simple GONE...it will not help a bit.

[Blue Jays]

"...triggering episode..."

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Exactly correct. The fact that we are so responsible, peace-loving, and restained as a demographic is also our downfall.

Violent leftwing statists *know* that we can be pushed VERY far without any response.
You know once they start turning the screws they will weaponize the IRS, freeze bank accounts, freeze ATM cards, freeze credit cards, shut-off water, electricity, natural gas, while simultaneously spreading the aforementioned misinformation to family, neighbors, coworkers, and sympathetic leftwing media. We have to remain resilient now and ensure President Trump can get Constitutionalists onto the SCOTUS.

[Blue Jays]

restained = restrained