Posted on 03/09/2018 5:49:35 AM PST by Kaslin
President Trump shocked the world Thursday night when it was announced that he planned to sit down with North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un in the coming months. The political world was so overwhelmed by the news that even the journalists at CNN were more or less optimistic. Yet over at MSNBC, host Rachel Maddow was anything but enthused by the idea as she spewed skepticism and threw shade at the commander-in-chief for excepting North Korea’s offer.
Towards the beginning of her bitter rant, Maddow seemed to question the President’s intelligence and/or knowledge of history for taking the meeting:
You might think another president in this circumstance, you can imagine a president asking himself or herself, “why has no other American president ever agreed to do this? Why has no sitting American president ever met with a leader from North Korea? Why has that never happened in all the decades North Korea existed as a nation? Should I take that to mean that this might be particularly risky or even an unwise move?”
Maddow whined about how Trump wasn’t doing what most presidents and even most people would do in approaching the situation. “I think a lot of people probably suspect tonight that those are not the kinds of questions that this president asked himself before agreeing to this meeting,” she said. “But this is the president we have and he said yes to North Korea.”
Maddow Seethes Over Trump Leading Possible Peace Talks With North Korea (video)
But meanwhile, this is the same MSNBC journalist that fawned over President Obama for the Iran nuclear deal. “[It’s] the major foreign policy achievement, not only of this presidency, but of this American generation,” she obnoxiously declared at the time. Maddow also gushed about how Obama had reached out to the dictatorial government of Cuba.
The MSNBC host was joined, via phone, by NBC National Security and Military reporter Courtney Kube and questioned her about what kind of problems Trump could cause and who in the “national security establishment” would stand up to him.
“It's definitely risky,” Kube said, stating the obvious. “So, one of the things this would do, if we have a picture of Kim Jong-un and President Trump standing next to one another, this actually achieves one of Kim Jong-un's long-standing and his father's goal which is to elevate North Korea.”
Maddow was clearly flummoxed by the massive shift in U.S. policy following a year of other historic and unorthodox interactions with the regime that had built up to this move. “It has been through Republican and Democratic administrations, the whole strategy not only for the United States but for the United States as leader of the free world, to the extent that we are, has been to treat North Korea as a pariah state and thereby try to change their behavior,” she huffed.
A face-to-face meeting with Kim Jong-un was a unique and groundbreaking development in the ongoing war between the two Koreas. Even Maddow’s MSNBC colleagues Chris Matthews and Joe Cirincione recognized the significance of the news. On CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (who’s adamantly anti-Trump) was glad to see this moment come to fruition because it meant real progress in the ability to negotiate.
MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show March 8, 2018 9:04:14 PM Eastern [7 minutes 6 seconds]
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RACHEL MADDOW: Now you might imagine another president in this circumstance. Kim Jong-un makes a request, “you want to meet?” You might think another president in this circumstance, you can imagine a president asking himself or herself, “why has no other American president ever agreed to do this? Why has no sitting American president ever met with a leader from North Korea? Why has that never happened in all the decades North Korea existed as a nation? Should I take that to mean that this might be particularly risky or even an unwise move?”
I think that's how most presidents would approach the idea of a personal presidential meeting with the North Korean dictator. I think a lot of people probably suspect tonight that those are not the kinds of questions that this president asked himself before agreeing to this meeting. But this is the president we have and he said yes to North Korea.
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MADDOW: This is, correct me if I'm wrong, Courtney, you know more about this than I do. But in my living memory as a human being that pays attention to the news, I feel like there have been other announcements from North Korea they were freezing the nuclear program, that they were stopping tests and in the past, they’ve even pledged to dismantle their nuclear program. That's what they had pledged to the Clinton administration. During the Clinton administration, of course, that all fell apart during the George W. Bush administration. There have been previous announcements from them about them stopping or taking apart the program, right?
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MADDOW: Courtney, let me just ask you one last piece of this. Obviously, the huge headline here is that no other American president—no other sitting president has ever agreed to meet one on one, to meet in person with the North Korean dictator. And because this was a surprise, because the Secretary of State, you know, isn't there, the Secretary of State is in Africa right now, there isn't a South Korean ambassador, the long-time head of North Korea policy at the State Department just left his job just left last week.
Is there any concern that the President by agreeing to take this meeting, that he may be doing something risky? That there may be people within the national security establishment and in the military who may object to the President taking this meeting one on one?
COURTNEY KUBE: It's definitely risky. So, one of the things this would do, if we have a picture of Kim Jong-un and President Trump standing next to one another, this actually achieves one of Kim Jong-un's long-standing and his father's goal which is to elevate North Korea. It’s to make them be seen as a major world power. You can make the argument that 2017 was actually really a banner year for North Korea, for the ballistic missile, and their nuclear testing. They achieved three intercontinental missiles that the Defense Intelligence Agency just said this week had the potential—had the capability of hitting North America.
You could make the argument Kim Jong-un reached the point that he wants to be at. He’s a nuclear power, he has missiles capable of hitting the United States. And now if he is to meet with President Trump, well now he's seen as a world leader, you know, that optic of him potentially being seen as an equal to the leader of the free world, the president of the United States.
MADDOW: Wow.
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MADDOW: This is a remarkable change. Right? It has been through Republican and Democratic administrations, the whole strategy not only for the United States but for the United States as leader of the free world, to the extent that we are, has been to treat North Korea as a pariah state and there by try to change their behavior. This is obviously a big change if the President is going to shake hands and meet with this guy and sit down with him one on one at the table.
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The left have this ludicrous dream that they can keep Trump from being “normalized”. That is, that he will never become “just” one of 45 Presidents who some support and some don’t. To them he must remain a cruel fluke that must be eradicated. Ridiculous yes but one on one peace talks like this absolutely shatters this dream.
They are lunatics. Trump is forcing them to take more medications. There is ten times more stress, destroying their brains.
Second thought, maybe she is on drugs.
She’s not playing with a full deck.
While a few fries short of a happy meal.
Shows that one can do well at college (as long as they pursue marshmallow majors) and still be dumber than a rock.
That is not just true. It’s factual.
That “guy” also talks with a female voice.
OMG! It was never the Russians! It was always the Norks!
Trump collusion with the Norks to destroy “The Great Obama’s” legacy!
Kim hates Hillary and is doing this to spite her! /s
The narrative of the Left is that Trump is a failure and everything he tries to do it a failure. Doesn’t make any difference how successful he is and how many of his initiatives succeed, that will continue to be their narrative because they live in fantasy land and whatever they fantasize is reality. They really are pathetic people, and it is a mental disorder.
Well NOT all the details have been decided between the US and Norkland. Nothing has been decided. We have no idea what that peculiar little creep is up to. He was shooting off ICBMs now he wants peace? Do you trust him?
So there’s a lot of risk indeed. This is no signing ceremony, it’s a rodeo.
Seems I remember Obama saying he would talk to our enemies.
...and he did. Mostly to further our enemies’ agenda of course.
the curiosity is killing me. I’d have to do it for that reason.
Sorry I missed it.
Usually watch Maddow because her antics are SO entertaining. Incredulous that she gets away with it.
I hate this "person" as much as the next guy does, but calling MadCow all kinds of names only makes some FReepers look incapable of coming up with a coherent thought.
This kind of rhetoric is exactly what we should expect from the liberal MSNBC talking head. It's been no different since Trump was elected.
She does a good job of acting smug and condescending about Trump and that's what her audience likes.
I think her finest moment was election night when she realized on live TV that Trump had won the race.
She looked like she was crying because mommie had taken away her binky.
If details are not agreed upon, no meeting and sanctions continue. Whats the risk?
But focusing on meeting . . . IF, a meeting date is set, the implied suggestion is that all the details have been settled and there is no risk. I do like someones suggestion that this may end up being a two-parter. A partial agreement made in North Korea with an invite to the White House for the final agreement. There is alot of logic in that scenario.
However . . . I believe in any case its a foregone conclusion for the following simple reason.
When Little Rocket Man stated "that it was his fathers wish to scrap nukes" pretty much settled that matter. Now we can on about betrayal, lying et all. One thing I do know about Asian culture . . . Saving face is more important than death. Honoring family, specially ones father in Asian culture is crucial. Little Rocket Man stepped in it . . . no turning back after that statement. All thats left is details.
Again . . . to be sure, my opinion, nothing less nothing more.
Maddcow is one fine over the top lesbo isn’t she?
Deja Vu - the success of the Clintoon administration with the Norks. Trump is well aware of what he would be dealing with.
Prior strategies from previous US administrations have been a dismal failure.
Master dealmaker Trump blazes a new path, toward peace and prosperity.
A seething Maddow is not necessarily a bad thing.
“Hey, Rachel - go put your finger in a dyke and shut up, you deranged, leftist freak.”
Ahh, judging her look and mannerisms......she IS the dyke.
Wait until she finds out that it will be President Trump’s SECOND meeting with Kim! ;-)
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