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Vox: We'll Have to Confiscate Guns To Reach Those Low 'European Levels Of Violence'
townhall.com ^ | 3/15/2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 03/15/2018 10:30:50 AM PDT by rktman

Regardless, the whole crux of their argument is that banning so-called assault weapons, expanded background checks, waiting period etc. will save lives. It won’t do that, and the anti-gun Left knows it. So, thanks to Vox for actually showing the end game of the Democratic agenda on firearms, which is that they really just want to ban guns. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have cited the Australian model on gun control. Clinton even went so far as to say the Supreme Court got the Second Amendment wrong in 2016. The level of violence in Europe, which is often cited by liberals to make the false argument that America is a shooting gallery, would require gun confiscation. Also, the Second Amendment’s language in the Constitution might not prevent such an extreme piece of legislation from passing; it’s the fact that there are not enough votes—and there probably never will be. Hey, at least there are gold stars for honesty (via Vox):

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To: rktman

Guess Switzerland isn’t in Europe. Oh don’t go after judges giving lenient sentences to gang bangers because they’re poor ignerent minorities that can’t get jobs and have to sell dope. How about Life sentencing for the use of a gun if the excuse the shooter was being “dissed” ? Death if it’s because of drugs.


41 posted on 03/15/2018 11:24:02 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


42 posted on 03/15/2018 11:25:32 AM PDT by 1tostres (Americans are dreamers too!!!)
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To: Robert DeLong

Sorta like CAIR saying “since 9/12/01 the largest mass killings in the US haven’t been by muslims”.


43 posted on 03/15/2018 11:26:11 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Polyxene

If they ban “assault weapons” they’ll very soon regret not also banning bolts, levers etc.


44 posted on 03/15/2018 11:30:03 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: rktman

The “racist” fact which must not be spoken is that if you treat black violent crime separately the US is as peaceful as Sweden (before the Islamic invasion).


45 posted on 03/15/2018 11:33:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: MichaelCorleone

“Harvard Law School no longer requires Constitutional Law in order to graduate.”

Sadly, most of our courts don’t require Constitutional Law in order to operate.


46 posted on 03/15/2018 11:38:43 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: rktman

Like the no-go zones in Sweden and other countries. Violence in Europe is escalating.


47 posted on 03/15/2018 11:41:54 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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To: dp0622

We Southerners are just biding our time. We will be there when it counts. We learned the hard way to pick our battles carefully.


48 posted on 03/15/2018 11:43:37 AM PDT by Himyar (Comes A Stillness)
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To: rktman

Low European levels of violence?? Looks like someone doesn’t read the news


49 posted on 03/15/2018 11:51:40 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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To: Himyar

I’m not casting aspersions. I wasn’t gonna hike to columbus circle to protest the Columbus statue if they took it down.

We Staten Islanders decided to buy it if they tried to take it down and put it in the Italian American museum here.

They didn’t take it down.

But the vile thrown at the south was much higher with a lot more people sticking their noses in.

I know southerners say the northern influx has messed up the vote but even if a state goes 58 to 42 dem, shouldn’t the migration reflect those numbers and shouldn’t it only be a tiny part of the population?

Or are more dems moving than republicans, and if so, for what reason? Just thinking out loud. :)

I bet more dems move because they are classic communism for thee but not for me. So when things get bad they head out to ruin somewhere else.


50 posted on 03/15/2018 11:53:29 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know saying Syrian rebels in anost back in Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: SMARTY
🙀😹🐂💨💩. Why read it when you can just make it up.
51 posted on 03/15/2018 11:53:41 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: blam

‘I read years ago that if the violence caused by Blacks was removed from the US stats, we’d be lower than Europe.’

but without them, who’d have picked the cotton...?


52 posted on 03/15/2018 12:11:41 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: blam

“I read years ago that if the violence caused by Blacks was removed from the US stats, we’d be lower than Europe.”

And now that the Europeans are importing blacks they will have US levels of violence.


53 posted on 03/15/2018 12:26:26 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Robert DeLong
I guess the omit Muslim acts of violence in Europe when tallying their count.

They also omit the mass murders of millions from 1917 on.

54 posted on 03/15/2018 12:44:20 PM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: rktman

Lowered, to Swiss levels of gun ownership?


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To: Steven Tyler

A little research will reveal that Swiss gun ownership is not as YUGE as most people think for private citizens.


57 posted on 03/15/2018 1:04:28 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Mr. K

We would have been attacked if she won. There would literally be russian and chinese soldiers on our streets today.

Hillary herself would drop a nuke on US Soil if she had to to maintain power. She’s the worst that the DNC has ever presented us.


58 posted on 03/15/2018 1:05:51 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: rktman

Molon Labe, bitches!

BTW, if you actually want lower levels of gun violence, trying to confiscate items that are both the personal property of people AND, simultaneously, their means of self-defense and defense of liberty (from an overbearing government) is not the way. The spasm of violence that would occur near the beginning (and end, by the way) of such an event would eclipse anything ever seen in the entire history of civilization. Literally millions could die within a few weeks.

However, the truth is that the Leftists don’t want a reduction of gun-related violence, they want control over this society. They just want to be the ones deciding who gets to be the victim of such violence. They are in for a BIG surprise if they think that they can pull that one off for free.


59 posted on 03/15/2018 1:35:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: blam

They can only point to gun crime - not to “violence”. In the USA most violence, including gun violence, is very localized to specific hot spots. If you don’t go “there” life in the USA is very non-violent. You’re more likely to be a victim of violence in Europe.

I grew up in the UK (70’s, 80’s) - it was a different time (hooligans) but England has always been violent, the “who” just morphs.

A “cultural marker” is sporting events. Go to a soccer game, anywhere in Europe, wearing the away teams colors. You will not be allowed to be in home team seating sections, you’ll be segregated. Otherwise, you would get the living crap beat out of you. In the USA I can do this at ANY sporting event and cheer when my team scores. Sure, you may get a heckler or something but it’s nothing like over there.


60 posted on 03/15/2018 1:41:50 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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