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Army mulls tougher basic training for out-of-shape, undisciplined recruits
FoxNews.com ^ | Andrew O'Reilly

Posted on 03/30/2018 6:26:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Citing a disturbing trend of new soldiers lacking both proper discipline and physical fitness, senior U.S. Army leaders are calling for a tougher and longer basic training program to prepare troops for combat over the next decade.

“We have every reason to get this right, and far fewer reasons not to,” Secretary of the Army Mark Esper said at the Association of the United States Army's Global Force Symposium in Alabama on Monday. “That’s why we are considering several initiatives — from a new physical fitness regime to reforming and extending basic training — in order to ensure our young men and women are prepared for the rigors of high-intensity combat.”

While Esper didn’t divulge any details of what an extended Basic Combat Training (BCT) might look like, the Army has already floated the idea of adding two weeks to its 10-week program. A redesigned BCT is expected to be implemented by early summer.

The current BCT involves a three-stage process, the first of which is the “Red Phase.” Comprising the first three weeks of training, it's where recruits begin to learn drills and ceremonies, the seven “Army Core Values, unarmed combat and first aid. Recruits are also introduced to standard-issue weapons like the M-16 assault rifle and M-4 carbine.

In Phase 2, known as the “White Phase,” soldiers begin target practice with their rifles, and become acquainted with other weapons like grenade launchers and machine guns. The recruits also complete a timed obstacle course and learn to work alongside other soldiers.

The final phase, or “Blue Phase,” sees the soldiers complete the Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT), learn nighttime combat operations and go on 10- and 15-kilometer field marches.

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To: rivercat

Oh yeah.

At my unit in Germany we had a mechanic who was a female, and she could out do her male counterparts.... And made coveralls look good too.


61 posted on 03/30/2018 11:19:49 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I was drafted Nov. 22nd, 1965. Did Basic in Ft. Gordon, GA. The 40 yard “Low-Crawl”, was the breaker for me. The first 20 wasn’t bad, turning around and going back, for the last 20, did me in. Out of a score of 500, I did 426 on the PT test. The “Low-Crawl”, zapped my score.

Till this day, I dread the “Low-Crawl”.


62 posted on 03/30/2018 11:23:25 AM PDT by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

You went through Sill?


63 posted on 03/30/2018 11:31:18 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Wow! The army may increase the number of required push-ups from 1 to 2...And may restrict the use of caddy carts to carrying ONLY ammo, backpacks, prayer rugs, and tea settings when in combat situations...Soldiers MAY have to carry their weapon now, unless they are of the following 4 genders: x1, yz, it, and fu...


64 posted on 03/30/2018 11:33:45 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: RoosterRedux

Wow! The army may increase the number of required push-ups from 1 to 2...And may restrict the use of caddy carts to carrying ONLY ammo, backpacks, prayer rugs, and tea settings when in combat situations...Soldiers MAY have to carry their weapon now, unless they are of the following 4 genders: x1, yz, it, and fu...


65 posted on 03/30/2018 11:33:45 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Bigg Red


Damn.  Those are some old looking recruits.  Are we enlisting from AARP now?

66 posted on 03/30/2018 12:07:55 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Yes, Sir. Bravo 3/321. My MOS was 91B, we went to Sill because it was the closest BCT site to Ft. Sam.


67 posted on 03/30/2018 12:41:30 PM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’ve been waiting for this. ‘bout time.


68 posted on 03/30/2018 12:45:57 PM PDT by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

I was @ 1/31


69 posted on 03/30/2018 12:53:54 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: Capt_Hank
Till this day, I dread the “Low-Crawl”.

I had no problem with the low crawl thru the sawdust pit considering I was only about 5'5" and 125 lbs. I just slithered thru. But it was my worst experience in basic training. Knowing what I know now, I would have taken the shirt out of the front of my pants.....I think you know what I mean.......LOL!

70 posted on 03/30/2018 1:06:56 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My cat is not fat, she is just big boned........)
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To: sparklite2

:)


71 posted on 03/30/2018 1:22:02 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Was that the OSUT Barracks up on the hill?


72 posted on 03/30/2018 2:51:05 PM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: SuperLuminal

Don’t let Mattis hear you say that.


73 posted on 03/30/2018 3:12:54 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Churchill: Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.)
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To: sparklite2
That second guy down does look a little long in the tooth

Made me think of enlisting...I am sure I can beat these young pussies at PT.

I am 69 but work out HARD everyday.

74 posted on 03/30/2018 3:16:29 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Churchill: Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.)
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To: PapaBear3625
For physical fitness standards, perhaps there should be a “pre-induction” test which prospective recruits need to pass, given on weekends at a local army base.

You and the army are on the same wavelength. From the article:

On the other hand, this would have prolly prevented Pyle from joining.
75 posted on 03/30/2018 4:24:30 PM PDT by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

We were the starship across the street from the shopette.

Looking at Google maps, it looks so much different now.

The field behind the shopette where we did PT is now occupied by “Cache Creek Chapel”, Gunners Inn is now the “Ft Sill Conference Center”, the barracks that were behind Quarry Hill Chapel are now gone.

The starship across from Quarry Hill was 2/80(AIT), but early ‘92 it was where reception was located. By mid 92, they moved reception over on main post putting it closer to CIF, medical, etc.


76 posted on 03/30/2018 7:07:01 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Crazy. If you stood in formation on our CTA, and did an about face, the Gunners was across the road to your left. I can’t remember but I think out PT field was to the right. I remember going right and then up the hill to Quarry Hill Chapel. They reflagged all the BCT Batteries in the late 90’s. I do remember all the cabs stacking up across from the Gunner’s on Friday nights though.


77 posted on 03/31/2018 5:33:47 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: Cen-Tejas
Today’s Army has one challenge and that is to COMMENCE purging all politically correct bull shit that infected the Army during the Obama years. So far, I don’t see scant evidence that that is happening.

Me neither, and the rot goes all the way back to the Clinton years.

78 posted on 03/31/2018 5:41:00 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Alex Jones isnÂ’t quite the wing nut now, all things considered.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper; RoosterRedux

Dang, just realized I posted the wrong video.

This is the one I was meaning to post:

https://youtu.be/Yr2FTwTmz-g


79 posted on 03/31/2018 8:24:54 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: rrrod

That’s okay by me. We want just the ones who can hack it.


80 posted on 04/01/2018 6:13:08 AM PDT by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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