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Left Finds Underage Sex Horrible For Christians, Beautiful For Gay People
The Federalist ^ | 04/01/2018 | Chad Felix Greene

Posted on 04/02/2018 11:08:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In an odd social narrative twist, Salon released an article titled, “Banning child marriage in America: An uphill fight against evangelical pressure.” Its argument indicates a remarkable double standard.

The article opens asserting, “Child marriage is a real problem in the United States, one that isn’t talked about much. Like human trafficking, we assume that child marriage is something that happens in other countries, countries with antiquated world views and gender norms.” It goes on to state, “Between 2000 and 2015, 86 percent of the reported 207,468 child marriages that took place in the United States were between minors and adults.”

This number comes from a Frontline report in 2017. That report quotes the founder of Unchained At Last, a woman’s advocacy group that’s working to outlaw marriage before the age of 18: “’When I got that spreadsheet from the state health department, I was literally shaking,’ [Fraidy] Reiss said. The spreadsheet showed nearly 3,500 minors married in New Jersey between 1995 and 2012. Most minors were 16 and 17 years old.”

Who Marries a 10-Year-Old Girl?

Almost 90 percent of the minors aged 16 – 17 marrying adults were girls. About 1 percent of minors under the age of 15 were married to adults, about 2,000 kids. Those aged 17 made up 67 percent of these marriages. Of the adults marrying these minors, 85 percent were between the ages of 18 and 23.

The numbers indicating marriages under the age of 15 are profoundly disturbing. There were 985 children aged 14, 51 aged 13, 10 aged 12, 2 aged 11, and 3 aged 10 years. According to the Frontline report and the Tahirih Justice Center, “Most states allow parties between the ages of 16 and 18 to marry with parental consent alone. Many states also allow parties younger than age 16 to marry with judicial approval and/or if one party is pregnant or has had a child.” Astoundingly, 27 states have no “age floor” in which to legally deny a marriage if other conditions are met such as pregnancy, parental consent, or judicial approval.

Reiss told the story of Michelle DeMello, who was married against her will at age 16. The story read, “She was 16 and pregnant. Her Christian community in Green Mountain Falls [Colorado] was pressuring her family to marry her off to her 19-year-old boyfriend. She didn’t think she had the right to say no to the marriage after the mess she felt she’d made. ‘I could be the example of the shining whore in town, or I could be what everybody wanted me to be at that moment and save my family a lot of honor.’” DeMello is now 42 years old.

The State Department released “The U.S. Global Strategy to Empower Adolescent Girls” in 2017. Per The Washington Post, “[t]he strategy includes harsh words about marriage before 18, declaring it a ‘human rights abuse’ that ‘produces devastating repercussions for a girl’s life, effectively ending her childhood’ by forcing her ‘into adulthood and motherhood before she is physically and mentally mature.’” The article clarifies, “Unchained has seen child marriage in nearly every American culture and religion, including Christian, Jewish, Muslim and secular communities.”

Another woman, Sara Siddiqui, shared her story of being forced into marriage at age 16. She said her father “arranged her Islamic wedding to a stranger, 13 years her senior, in less than one day; her civil marriage in Nevada followed when she was 16 and six months pregnant. ‘I couldn’t even drive yet when I was handed over to this man.’”

Conservatives Only Pretending to Care About Parents?

A key issue here is parental consent. Salon writes, “The proposed amendment to existing Kentucky marriage law, SB 48, stalled in committee last week and was criticized by Republican Senator John Schickel because it takes decision-making power away from parents. But the real force behind the bill’s delayed passage comes from Family Foundation of Kentucky. Family Foundation of Kentucky is a conservative lobbying group.”

The author directly accuses evangelical Christians of promoting child marriage: “This link between evangelical Christianity and child marriage actually has been explored recently in the wake of stories of failed Senate candidate Roy Moore’s proclivities. Evangelical communities still push for child marriages between girls in their ‘middle teens’ and men in the mid-twenties or older.” She exclusively cites the accusations against Moore and support for his candidacy as evidence, alongside the ‘religious groups” opposing the bill and others like it.

What she doesn’t tell us is that Republican State Sen. Julie Raque Adams proposed the bill to amend Kentucky’s marriage laws. Martin Cothran of the Family Foundation stated the organization’s opposition was that the bill “takes away parental rights at the very beginning, and then includes them in a sort of incidental way at the end of the process.”

Similarly, state Sen. John Schicke said “Decisions involving a minor child should be made by a parent, not the court.” So, according to the bill’s opponents, their issue has nothing to do with underage sex and everything to do with substituting judicial judgment for parent judgment. The current law allows minors to be married with parental support, while the proposed law would allow only judges to make exceptions. It would also allow judges to void marriages of minors.

So Underage Sex Is Terrible, Except When It’s Not

What is strange here, besides of course the child marriages themselves, is progressive advocates’ passion and outrage over this in contrast to their equal passion and praise for an identical situation in the Oscar award-winning film, “Call Me By Your Name.” As is well known by now, the movie features a sexual relationship between a 17-year-old boy and a 24-year-old man.

The movie has been widely praised with headlines such as The New Yorker: “‘Call Me by Your Name’: An Erotic Triumph,” The New York Times: “Review: A Boy’s Own Desire in ‘Call Me by Your Name,’” and The Atlantic: “The Sumptuous Love Story of Call Me by Your Name.”

The star of the film, Armie Hammer, defended the lead characters’ relationship on Twitter after being challenged on its adult-teen nature, saying, “You do know that you live in a state where the age of consent is 16, right….? Ok. Now shut up.” LGBT advocates and liberal media outlets even complained the movie was not sexually explicit enough. To dismiss criticism, LGBT advocates widely used the argument that Italy, where the film was set, has an age of consent of 14.

So why would a 17-year-old be considered a “child bride” in one scenario and a fully consenting, sexually adventurous adult in another? Why is it acknowledged that entering into adult relationships can be highly dangerous, coercive, and emotionally destructive for minors, but only when the nature of the relationship is heterosexual?

Same-sex marriage has been legal since 2013. Would these advocates argue that it would be abusive to the minor for the characters in this film to marry? The only difference is the kind of sex and religious views of its participants. It seems the Left selectively views an identical situation entirely dependent on what outcome they want from the narrative.

It seems the Left selectively views an identical situation entirely dependent on what outcome they want from the narrative.

It must be said that there is no excuse or justification for any religious leader, judge, or certainly parent to participate in marrying a minor to an adult. While there is a legitimate concern around legal verbiage that could easily be used to limit parental authority, it is morally and ethically obligatory for state legislatures to clearly state that only consenting legal adults should be allowed to marry.

Views surrounding teenage pregnancy and social obligation must be challenged, and a universal understanding of the fragility of young minds and spirits must be recognized. Hypocrisy must be called out wherever it lives, especially when the consequence involves endangering children.

The Salon author is not wrong in the nature of her concern. To realize that children as young as 10 years old have been married to adults in our country is profoundly disturbing. But at the same time, what does the Left expect when it routinely glamourizes teenagers engaging in adult behavior?

Are we to judge a 24-year-old man marrying a 17-year-old girl as an abuser who is coercing her while celebrating a 24-year-old man in a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old boy as beautiful and courageous? Are the girl’s parents maliciously manipulating her while the boy’s parents demonstrating love, tolerance, and acceptance? When will politics step aside in favor of protecting children?

Chad Felix Greene is a political and social writer focusing on truth in media, conservative ideas and goals, and true equality under the law. He has written and illustrated Jewish children’s books and writes for online publications.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; leftism; lgbt; pedophilia; underagesex
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To: sargon

>>People used to not live nearly as long, so maybe that’s part of the reason for more “early starts” in the past. In any event, 16-year-olds certainly have been marrying 20-plus-year-old men throughout recorded history. I don’t automatically consider the practice perverse.

My grandfather was born in 1896. My grandmother in 1909. They were married in 1925 and produced children from 1926 to 1944. He died in 82, she in 2001. The older, established man marrying the healthy, fertile teen was the recipe for family success in those days.


21 posted on 04/02/2018 12:06:20 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: BenLurkin

“Never heard of Christian child marriage before.”

Sure you have.

Jerry Lee Lewis legally married his 13-year old cousin.

Melanie Griffith more or less married Don Johnson when she was 14.

Bo Derek was just 16 when she started living with John Derek who later married her.

Demi Moore was civilly married at 17 but there’s rumors that she was married in a church ceremony at 16.

Sandra Dee was married at 16.

Marilyn Monroe was married at 15.

& etc.


22 posted on 04/02/2018 12:08:30 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: MeganC

Were any of those persons Christian?


23 posted on 04/02/2018 12:09:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Jerry Lee Lewis and Marilyn Monroe for sure.


24 posted on 04/02/2018 12:12:43 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: nobamanomore

Yes.


25 posted on 04/02/2018 12:13:27 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s ok for Muslims and gays. Protected groups can do anything.


26 posted on 04/02/2018 12:14:22 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind

For decades, the left has been encouraging sexual “exploration” at ever younger ages, and explicit sexual “instruction” is now offered in the early primary school grades, and we have been pressured to accept the idea that children have a “right” to a sex life.


27 posted on 04/02/2018 12:14:43 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: sargon

My grandmother was married and having her first child at 16.

We just were reading the Laura Ingalls Wilder stories, and when she was playing with her cousin, riding ponies like the wind in the prairie, being kids (I think they were abou 13), one of their friends was getting married to an adult settler man. Laura was horrified that this girl had to give up childhood and do all the work of a settler woman.


28 posted on 04/02/2018 12:17:17 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw the award-winning movie “Three Billboards”, and it seemed that most of the men were married to women 20 or 30 years younger than them.


29 posted on 04/02/2018 12:17:54 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

RE: most of the men were married to women 20 or 30 years younger than them.

As long as these women were of LEGAL age when they married, I don’t see anything wrong with that. Look, Trump is 71 years old and Melania is 47, nobody considers this out of the ordinary.


30 posted on 04/02/2018 12:23:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: FrankR

A lot of the left is run by gay activists.


31 posted on 04/02/2018 12:28:10 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Armie Hammer is doing this ?

I just read up yesterday on the very interesting, very elite status of the Hammer family - centered around the Hammer museum in LA.

Strange cats. All the men are named “Armand”.


32 posted on 04/02/2018 12:34:46 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: SeekAndFind

The Author Chad Felix Greene is a sodomite who “married” another man and shouldn’t be trusted as a self-proclaimed “conservative.”


33 posted on 04/02/2018 12:35:14 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Marriage means commitment. The left thinks you should play the field.
Marriage implies a cultural norm of expectations as to roles. Norms are outdated. If it isn’t illegal, then anything goes. And what right does the government have to invade my privacy and impose rules of pleasure in the absence of norms?

The government should stick to picking my pocket and not my partners. /sarc?


34 posted on 04/02/2018 1:02:15 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: MeganC
And yet, look what happened to Roy Moore, who was looking for a young wife when he returned from Vietnam and law school.

He graduated high school in 1965 and went straight to West Point. He graduated in 1969 and went straight into the Army, did a rotation in Georgia and then Germany before being deployed to Vietnam. After the war ended, Moore was discharged by the army in 1974, when he went back to Alabama enrolled in law school, and graduated in 1977. From age 18 to 30, he was either serving the nation or finishing his education.

Both Bo Derek and Demi Moore married men at Moore's age or older. Don Johnson was a few years younger than Moore's initial dating age when Johnson married Griffith.

-PJ

35 posted on 04/02/2018 1:07:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The author directly accuses evangelical Christians of promoting child marriage: “This link between evangelical Christianity and child marriage actually has been explored recently in the wake of stories of failed Senate candidate Roy Moore’s proclivities. Evangelical communities still push for child marriages between girls in their ‘middle teens’ and men in the mid-twenties or older.” She exclusively cites the accusations against Moore and support for his candidacy as evidence, alongside the ‘religious groups” opposing the bill and others like it.

I have never heard of this sort of thing happening recently among evangelicals, or any Christians for that matter. As others mentioned there was a time (maybe 40 years ago) when the brides were in their mid-teens and the grooms were early 20s men. That was not strange, nor perverted, nor only happening among Christians. Such marriages may have been strongly urged if the girl became pregnant, but not as a matter of regular practice. (looking through my family tree I see NO teen marriages younger than 16 and the tree goes back to colonial USA.)

(I bet teen marriages still happen in out of the way places and are not against the law, nor frowned upon.) The author is a bold liar and an idiot.

36 posted on 04/02/2018 1:10:29 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray for President Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a Satanic drive to destroy the institution of marriage.

God did not make age the primary issue for being ready to marry. Physical maturity of the parties is an obvious natural marker.

The consent of the parties is implicit in the covenant of marriage by definition. “Forced marriage” is self-contradictory just as “homosexual marriage” is.

Arranged marriage is different from “forced marriage,” as parental consent without regard to age is part of Biblical marriage also. That’s why in wedding ceremonies fathers “give” their daughters to be married.

It is important to examine our culture and social customs in the light of the Bible.


37 posted on 04/02/2018 1:18:09 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bkmk


38 posted on 04/02/2018 1:42:32 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: SeekAndFind

No problem with a 16 year old girl getting married so long as it is completely consensual - that was exactly the case with many of our forefathers. But that is something far different from Muslim “arranged marriages” where young girls are pawned out to older men without a say in the matter.


39 posted on 04/02/2018 1:48:53 PM PDT by tjd1454 (L))
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To: tjd1454

RE: No problem with a 16 year old girl getting married so long as it is completely consensual

Depends on the legal age of consent of the state one lives in.

Here in NY, 17 is the age of consent so the age you cited would still be illegal.


40 posted on 04/02/2018 1:57:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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