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Radical plan to split California into three states earns spot on November ballot (YES!)
LA Times ^ | 6/12/18 | JOHN MYERS

Posted on 06/12/2018 6:20:19 PM PDT by Libloather

California’s 168-year run as a single entity, hugging the continent’s edge for hundreds of miles and sprawling east across mountains and desert, could come to an end next year — as a controversial plan to split the Golden State into three new jurisdictions qualified Tuesday for the Nov. 6 ballot.

If a majority of voters who cast ballots agree, a long and contentious process would begin for three separate states to take the place of California, with one primarily centered around Los Angeles and the other two divvying up the counties to the north and south. Completion of the radical plan — far from certain, given its many hurdles at judicial, state and federal levels — would make history.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; absolutelynot; ballot; ca2018; california; election2018; election2020; electoralcollege; faithlesselectors; losangeles; nationalpopularvote; no; november; npv; radical
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To: Seaplaner

The House of Representatives will not change, but there will be four more democrat Senators, and four more democrat votes in the Electoral College.


41 posted on 06/12/2018 6:50:06 PM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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To: BenLurkin

Looks good to me.

California’s agricultural heartand becomes its own, presumably conservative, state.

Looks like freedom.


42 posted on 06/12/2018 6:53:39 PM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: yarddog

Any state can do it with the consent of Congress. Article IV, Section 3:

...no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.


43 posted on 06/12/2018 6:55:05 PM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, it means 4 more liberal Senators and how many more liberal congressmen.

Better to have Washington and Oregon become one state.


44 posted on 06/12/2018 6:55:48 PM PDT by Fhios (Atlas shrugged, Sessions yawned.)
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To: Libloather

How about we pick one out of the three and allow them to stay and then kick the other two out of the Union.


45 posted on 06/12/2018 6:57:38 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: BenLurkin

” Oxnard.?”

Turn blue knf!! Make Parma it’s own state, White socks as the flag!


46 posted on 06/12/2018 7:06:57 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing! Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a doctor and I won't touch that thing)
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To: Libloather

So they get 6 senators.


47 posted on 06/12/2018 7:13:12 PM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: Libloather
"INITIATIVE MEASURE SUBMITTED DIRECTLY TO VOTERS

SECTION 1. STATEMENT OF FINDINGS

A. California is the nation's most populous state, nearly six times larger than the average population of the fifty states. However, much of the state's population is concentrated in certain urban and coastal areas, particularly in Southern California.

B. California is the nation's third largest state by geography, over two times larger than the average of the fifty states, with enormous and diverse economies, including agriculture, energy, technology, and entertainment.

C. As a consequence of these and other socio-economic factors, political representation of California's diverse population and economies has rendered the state nearly ungovernable. Additionally, vast parts of California are poorly served by a representative government dominated by a large number of elected representatives from a small part of our state, both geographically and economically.

D. It is not surprising that efforts to divide the state have been · part of its history for over one hundred years. In fact, voters overwhelmingly approved the splitting of California into two states in 1859, but Congress never acted on that request due to the Civil War.

E. The citizens of the whole state would be better served by three smaller state governments while preserving the historical boundaries of the various counties, cities, and towns. _

SECTION 2. STATEMENT OF PURPOSE

A. The people, acting as the legislative body of the State of California pursuant to their reserved legislative power provided by the California Constitution, hereby:

(1) Establish new boundaries for three new states within the boundaries of the State of California;

(2) Establish a procedure for the transformation of the single State of California into three new states; and

(3) Provide the legislative consent for the formation of three new states to Congress as required by the United States Constitution.

SECTION 3. LEGISLATIVE CONSENT FOR THE CREATION OF THREE NEW STATES WITHIN THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES OF CALIFORNIA.

Article 3.1 of Chapter 1 of Division 1 of Title 1 ( commencing with Section 173) of the Government Code is added to read:

§ 173(a) Upon enactment of this section, the legislative consent required by Section 3 of Article IV of the United States Constitution for the creation of three (3) states within the current boundaries of the State of California, as provided by Article 3 of Chapter 1 of Division 1 of Title 1, is given by the people.

(b) The boundaries of the three (3) new states shall be as follows:

(1) A new state, named Northern California, or a name to be chosen by the people of that state, shall include the territory represented by the boundaries of the following forty ( 40) counties: Alameda, Alpine, Amador, Butte, Calaveras, Colusa, Contra Costa, Del Norte, El Dorado, Glenn, Humboldt, Lake, Lassen, Marin, Mariposa, Mendocino, Merced, Modoc, Napa, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Siskiyou, Shasta, Tehama, Trinity, Tuolumne, Sacramento, San Joaquin, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Sierra, Solano, Sonoma, Stanislaus, Sutter, Yolo and Yuba.

(2) A new state, named California, or a name to be chosen by the people of that state, shall include the territory represented by the following six ( 6) counties: Los Angeles, Monterey, San Benito, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Ventura.

(3) A new state, named Southern California, or a name to be chosen by the people of that state, shall include the territory represented by the following twelve (12) counties: Fresno, Imperial, Inyo, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mono, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, and Tulare.

( c) On January 1, 2019, the Governor shall transmit a copy of the certified election results enacting this Article to Congress, with a request that Congress act upon the consent of the people within twelve (12) months.

§ 17 4( a) Upon enactment of this section the California State Legislature shall provide for the division and transformation of California. If the State Legislature fails to reach resolution of such matters within twelve (12) months of congressional assent to the division of the state, the debts of the State of California shall be distributed among the newly created states based on the population of the new states proportionately to the whole population of California at the time of Congressional action, and the assets within the boundaries of each newly created state shall become the assets of that new state.

(b) The legal relationship between the counties and the State of California shall continue until the organization and establishment of a separate government in a newly created state, including the adoption of a Constitution by convention or popular vote within each newly created state.

SECTION 4. GENERAL PROVISIONS

(a) If any provision of this Act, or part thereof, is for any reason held to be invalid or unconstitutional, the remaining provisions shall not be affected, but shall remain in full force and effect, and to this end the provisions of this Act are severable.

(b) This Act is intended to be comprehensive. It is the intent of the People that in the event this Act and measures relating to the same subject shall appear on the same statewide election ballot, the provisions of the other measure or measures shall be deemed to be in conflict with this Act. In the event that this Act receives a greater number of affirmative votes, the provisions of this Act shall prevail in their entirety, and all provisions of the other measure or measures shall be null and void."

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/17-0018%20%28Three%20Californias%29_1.pdf

48 posted on 06/12/2018 7:14:52 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: BenLurkin

There is no life east of the marine layer!


49 posted on 06/12/2018 7:18:05 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: yarddog

Isn’t Texas the only state which can legally split itself into 4 or is it 5 states?

Can you explain?


50 posted on 06/12/2018 7:36:36 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: Libloather

Just a guess, but I think this is getting some traction with liberals now because Trump is going to clean up election fraud and they are afraid the entire state will turn RED.

Some people are saying that California actually went for Trump if you remove the illegal votes and the “manufactured” votes.

I’d love to know the real facts.


51 posted on 06/12/2018 7:43:54 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Libloather

Keep it as one state but allocate electoral votes by county, not on an all or none basis.


52 posted on 06/12/2018 7:54:28 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Libloather

6 senators from CA. no way.


53 posted on 06/12/2018 8:06:48 PM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: SWAMP-C1PHER

“Oh man this would be an absolute dream!!!”

Nope. You would change the balance in the US Senate forever. Two clear democrat states. One probable Republican State.

CA goes from having 2 D Senators to having at least 4 D Senators and one or two R Senators.

Disaster for America.


54 posted on 06/12/2018 8:14:55 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Libloather

.... Me gonna vote Yes ..... Needs to be done to break the Socialist hold on the US .......


55 posted on 06/12/2018 8:15:20 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Libloather
Northern California with San Francisco and Sacramento, California with LA

and Southern California with Fresno and San Diego.

Wouldn't this plan give Democrats two more senators since NCA and CA would be liberal?


56 posted on 06/12/2018 8:15:22 PM PDT by garjog
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To: DIRTYSECRET

.... Every time I drive through NorCal and see the signs it warms my heart as I drive through this massive State of Iniquity.


57 posted on 06/12/2018 8:19:27 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Libloather

Bad. 2 Democrat 1 Republican. Gives Dems 2 more states and 4 more Senators.


58 posted on 06/12/2018 8:26:18 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Libloather

Won’t this mean six New Democrat senators?


59 posted on 06/12/2018 8:44:11 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Their side circles the wagons. Our side revs up the bus.)
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To: Libloather

Then get your nose checked.

It would be sliced in favor of dems.

Plus it will never pass all the courts.


60 posted on 06/12/2018 9:00:36 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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