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HATING LINCOLN: The Now Revered President Was, Like Trump, Widely Hated In His Day
Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/20/2018 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/20/2018 8:55:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: GregoTX

“President Trump isn’t “widely hated”
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I see NO Similarities at all!
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GunnyG@PlanetWTF?
TRUMP.45 IF? We Can Keep Him???
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21 posted on 07/20/2018 9:36:23 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>Were there Reagan supporters or cabinet members who were harassed when they eat at restaurants?<<

That was my point but IIRC he did get a LOT of heat from the GOP — but he called them out on it. But he also coined the Reagan Rule so I don’t recall how he handled dissension in the ranks.

Anyone a bit older remember?


22 posted on 07/20/2018 9:37:44 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("please pass the winnamins" (/Principled on 6/27/2018))
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To: crz
First, Trump isnt “Hated” like they like us all to believe.

Sure he isn't. And Hillary isn't hated either.

23 posted on 07/20/2018 9:39:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: freedumb2003
People forget that the vitriol against Reagan was almost as bad as Trump, but didn’t usually boil over into calls by democrats to use violence against him and his supporters.

That's because, prior to Trump, we've had 28 years of treasonous, globalist, open borders presidents who have cultivated an absolute attitude of violence and anarchy.

We've been enabling liberal insanity for decades.

24 posted on 07/20/2018 9:39:43 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: freedumb2003

When Reagan was in Office the demoncratic party still had some moderate to conservative members....

Like Islam, the democrats have radicalized....


25 posted on 07/20/2018 9:42:20 AM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hated for pretty much the same reason, he wants to take away their slaves (illegal aliens).


26 posted on 07/20/2018 9:42:42 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind
Two points. Soros was not hiring thugs on a grand scale during Reagan's Administration. Secondly the attempt to assassinate Reagan--which would have succeeded had the ammo worked as it was supposed to--gave anyone not a raving lunatic some pause.

One other point. A larger percentage of the population still had a moral compass in the 1980s. Robert Bork wrote a book on our direction since then,

27 posted on 07/20/2018 9:42:42 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: the OlLine Rebel
And I ask: please take note how much libs love Lincoln. That should tell you something right there.

Please take note too how many normals revere him as well. That should tell you something right there.

28 posted on 07/20/2018 9:59:13 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: RJS1950

Exactly. This is where the knee-slapper, “but the democrats were the conservatives and the republicans were the liberals then” bullcrap is typically tossed onto the room.


29 posted on 07/20/2018 10:02:33 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

When only half do, but all libs do, which do you think is more telling?


30 posted on 07/20/2018 10:18:48 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Yes, I failed to mention the Martyr Syndrome.

Worked for liberal icon Kennedy, too.


31 posted on 07/20/2018 10:21:05 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: All

IMO Lincoln could have prevented the ‘civil war’ but choose political expediency instead.

I suspect he calculated it would be short and relatively bloodless. He was wrong.

Second worst president in US history.


32 posted on 07/20/2018 10:25:04 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: freedumb2003
People forget that the vitriol against Reagan was almost as bad as Trump

Really? I understand that a lot of liberals hated Reagan, but his policies had some support from Democrats in Congress and the media didn't have the kind of unified and intense hatred of Reagan that they have for Trump.

There was more of a continuum or spectrum in those days. Network news and major newspapers couldn't express the degree of animosity that Mother Jones or The Nation could. Now they can.

33 posted on 07/20/2018 10:28:33 AM PDT by x
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To: TheTimeOfMan
IMO Lincoln could have prevented the ‘civil war’ ...

Prevent it how?

34 posted on 07/20/2018 10:28:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

If you want a different take on Lincoln I recommend the short book, “The Deification of Lincoln”, by Ira Cardiff. I came across this about a year ago. It was written in 1943 ,And it was not a positive view of Lincoln that has persevered since the end of the Civil War and beyond.

You can fins it at Amazon and probably Books a Million.


35 posted on 07/20/2018 10:29:48 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: the OlLine Rebel; BroJoeK; rockrr; DoodleDawg
And I ask: please take note how much libs love Lincoln.

That should tell you something right there.

That tells me nothing. For over a century, Lincoln was respected and even revered in the Northern and Western part of the country, particularly by Republicans. He wasn't that popular with Democrats.

Now that the Northeast and West Coast are Democrat strongholds and the South is largely Republican, Democrats are appealing to Northerners and Republicans to Southerners, so some old attitudes seep from party to party.

But you do realize that it was in Obama's political interest to play up the Lincoln connection, since they both found a home in Illinois. It was a way of winning votes.

I don't recall any great interest in Lincoln from the Clintons or most other Democrats (Mario Cuomo may have been an exception because he had advisors telling him that he was Lincoln reincarnated).

36 posted on 07/20/2018 10:36:56 AM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Earth to CNN, a whole lot of stuff got done before the phone was invented. Censuses were even taken. Polls were done. The old fashioned way. By walking.


37 posted on 07/20/2018 10:49:29 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just dropping by this thread to recommend the book I’m reading.

“Abraham Lincoln: A Life” by Michael Burlingame is a masterful 2 volume biography. Exhaustively researched and well-written, it is as fine a book as I’ve ever read.


38 posted on 07/20/2018 10:51:01 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Skooz

Thanx. I enjoyed this. Very informative.

The Hour of Peril: The Secret Plot to Murder Lincoln Before the Civil War


39 posted on 07/20/2018 10:54:16 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: SeekAndFind

No Southern states voted for Lincoln...they were all Democrat and KKK racist types ...

And...

many owned blck slaves...

OH NOEZ...


40 posted on 07/20/2018 11:02:08 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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