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Hurricane Florence downgraded to Category 2, still considered dangerous
NY Post ^ | September 12, 2018 | 11:32pm

Posted on 09/12/2018 11:56:33 PM PDT by conservative98

Hurricane Florence has been downgraded to a Category 2 storm but it is still considered an extremely dangerous and life-threatening storm.

As of 11 p.m., the storm was centered 280 miles east southeast of Wilmington, North Carolina, and was moving northwest at 17 mph. Its maximum sustained winds have dropped slightly to 110 mph.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: algore; florence; globalwarming; hurricane; hurricaneflorence; trump
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To: DoughtyOne

Hold on....not so fast.....Circulating reports claiming the “weakening” of Florence is a big deal are wrong. The wind field remains HUGE & maximum 9-13’ surge is still likely....This is nearly irrelevant because hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 70 miles from the center and tropical-storm-force winds now extend outward up to 195 miles....It will regenerate before landfall to a cat 4 or Cat 5 hurricane quickly


21 posted on 09/13/2018 1:18:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

All that new fangled construction in coastal areas is full up with liberal-yankee transplants. Them southern boys are waiting for scrap wood to build new decks and such. ‘Course Jimmy Ray and his crowd married cheerleaders and them girls went upscale and bought into them yankee enclaves... a country boy can survive.


22 posted on 09/13/2018 1:34:13 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: caww

Al, is that you? LOL

Hey, you may be right. I live in an area where we get hurricane force winds every year as the Santa Ana winds fly through the canyons.

As far as storm serge goes, it’s dry dust with a 250,000 acre forest fire chaser...

If that 9-13’ surge does materialize, it is a big deal.

Not trying to downplay the potential for harm.

I did get a kick out of them suggesting we’d need to start thinking of storm level 6 as the new norm, only to have this downgraded to a two.

As you say, this could build again.

Good luck to everyone back there.


23 posted on 09/13/2018 1:37:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 5De0% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: conservative98

Trump stood tall and the hurricane backed down! (just like the Democrats)


24 posted on 09/13/2018 1:41:10 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Nothingburger

Attention:

The Saffir-Simpson Scale only categorizes storms ‘by wind’...NOT inland flooding & storm surge (both still a HUGE risk!)

Sandy was “only “ 80 mph winds . A lot of rivers empty out to the ocean in NC and the surge and the rain will back them up and prevent them from draining into the ocean major flooding WILL happen


25 posted on 09/13/2018 1:41:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: DoughtyOne

It has to pass the gulf stream as well......a lot of miles yet for this thing to change.

Sandy was “only “ 80 mph winds . A lot of rivers empty out to the ocean in NC and the surge and the rain will back them up and prevent them from draining into the ocean major flooding WILL happen as well....


26 posted on 09/13/2018 1:44:32 AM PDT by caww
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YES!!! The media is saddened! They wanted something so big that TRUMP would screw up!
27 posted on 09/13/2018 1:46:04 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: DoughtyOne

Heres yet another reporting...

“Even though we have seen #Florence weakening some its important to note the size of the hurricane and tropical storm wind fields ‘have expanded’.... Tropical storm force winds are almost 400 miles across and the hurricane winds are 140 miles across. Don’t focus on the category


28 posted on 09/13/2018 1:52:05 AM PDT by caww
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To: KavMan
Am seeing several saying Don't just pay attention to categories.......categories are based ONLY on wind...not surge nor rain. The 'size' of the 'wind field' is very important in storm surge heights. The larger the wind field the more water pushed toward the coast. Ex: Katrina (125mph) but large wind field=big surge. Charley (150mph) but small wind field = small surge
29 posted on 09/13/2018 1:56:36 AM PDT by caww
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To: conservative98

God answers prayer!


30 posted on 09/13/2018 1:57:49 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: conservative98

The WAPO was blaming Trump for the hurricane, will they now give him credit for it being weakened?


31 posted on 09/13/2018 1:58:50 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: KavMan

The closer to land, the warmer the waters. So it’s quite possible, even probable, that she will strengthen again. Though hurricanes can be so fickle, going from one extreme to another in a blink is not unusual....


32 posted on 09/13/2018 1:59:04 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Very true, a great deal of damage can still be done.


33 posted on 09/13/2018 2:00:47 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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Gotta worry about the flooding!!
34 posted on 09/13/2018 2:02:39 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: DoughtyOne

If you want to track Florence top wind gusts and waves as it nears the coast in real time use this site
...https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/ . The best station on land for live wind data is located on Johnny Mercer Pier in WrightsvilleBeach.

Link here:

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=jmpn7


35 posted on 09/13/2018 2:08:48 AM PDT by caww
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To: topher

Ocean resort and casino offering rooms for free in Atlantic City to anyone with evacuation orders and a drivers license from VA NC or SC....


36 posted on 09/13/2018 2:12:38 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: DoughtyOne

They were saying exactly the same things about Typhoon Mangkhut that just moved through Guam and Saipan.

We were told that it would have 250 mph winds and a storm surge that would inundate the low-level areas of the island. A few downed power lines and traffic lights and 24-hours with no electricity but no big deal. It was barely a typhoon.

If it was one typhoon/hurricane they miss-forecast I’d shrug it off. Two in a row looks suspicious.

I think they are hoping for a Katrina for a Democrat to missmanage the response too and blame it on PDJT


37 posted on 09/13/2018 2:19:57 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0246 AM CDT Thu Sep 13 2018

Areas affected...Coastal North Carolina

Concerning...Severe potential...Tornado Watch likely

Valid 130746Z - 131015Z

Probability of Watch Issuance...95 percent

SUMMARY...The approach of Hurricane Florence will bring an
increasing tornado threat across coastal North Carolina this
morning. A Tornado Watch will be collaborated with impacted offices,
with issuance expected around 7am EDT.

DISCUSSION...Hurricane Florence is making steady northwest progress
early this morning, and its approximate northwestern half is now
appearing on KMHX (Morehead City, NC) radar data. Along the fringe
of the main precipitation shield, more cellular activity is
apparent, with Z/ZDR suggesting relatively stronger low-level
convective elements in these cells (via modest drop size sorting
signatures). Through early/mid morning, this favorable convective
corridor should evolve onshore where surface theta-e is highest
given Florence’s outer circulation and related advection. Generally,
this corridor will be centered on coastal areas in the Morehead City
CWA. As wind fields continue to strengthen here over the next
several hours, amplifying low-level shear will combine with the
aforementioned convective maximum to increase the threat of a couple
of tornadoes.

Greater uncertainty with regard to the tornado potential exists to
the west/northwest (RAH/ILM CWAs) and north (AKQ CWA). For RAH/ILM,
greater offshore component of flow will maintain less favorable
theta-e initially, limiting the tornado threat. However, southward
advection of a diurnally heated boundary layer may boost the threat
towards afternoon. For AKQ, onshore components are yielding greater
low-level buoyancy, but a weaker wind field and lower convective
potential cast some doubt on how far north the tornado threat will
extend. Regardless, a Tornado Watch will eventually be collaborated
with local offices, and issuance is expected around 7am EDT.

..Picca/Thompson.. 09/13/2018


38 posted on 09/13/2018 2:20:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Seriously, a lot of folks are praying and this gets results


39 posted on 09/13/2018 2:21:45 AM PDT by shalom aleichem (Fire them all even though the heavens fall. (Fiat justitia ruat cælum))
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To: topher

Fact of the matter is, houses built in the area at question are not built on a concrete foundation, your state flag shows Louisiana, why do you not know this? Every house built anywhere near the oceanfront in NC and SC in my lifetime, over 50 years, has been built on raised pilings, high enough to park an RV or deep sea fishing boat beneath the house. This allows overwash and storm surge to pass comparatively harmlessly beneath the house.

Do you get some sort of enjoyment out of posting scary scenarios or something?


40 posted on 09/13/2018 2:22:56 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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