Donald Trump: George W. Bush War in the Middle East the Biggest Mistake in U.S. History

Breitbart ^ | 20 Sep 2018 | Charlie Spiering

[proust]

This is backed by Dubya’s own words.

“This is the guy who tried to kill my dad.” George W. Bush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL6OGwsp9_o

[x]

If we wanted to avenge our murdered Americans we would have bombed Saudi Arabia to a smoking ruins.

Some of us said this at the time. Very few of us survived the mid-2000s purge here over it.

Probably more than would still be alive if we'd taken your advice back then.

[pt17]

Don’t know if was the biggest mistake in U.S. history but it’s right up there if not. Bush was either all the idiot the dems said he was or, if you are into conspiracies, another Manchurian candidate for the globalist cabal. Personally, I am more inclined to think he was just an idiot.

[Az Joe]

Any war entered into that is not fought with maximum needed force was/is a mistake.

[Londo Molari]

After 9-11, I understand what Bush was trying to do — make a fairly modern Middle East country into a Shining Democracy by removing their brutal hated dictator. He hoped the rest of the Muslim World would be enlightened, see the success and follow. However, where he failed was his underestimation of the total amount of hate those people have for EVERYONE else, including their own people. Bush's failure was to understand the medieval mindset of that region of the world.

IMO America should only use it's military to punish when we have been attacked or have intel of an impending attack. Nation building should not be part of the mission, especially in the ME. No more sacrificing our soldier's precious lives for people who hate us. Make any attacks against us fast, costly and painful, then get the hell out.

[xhrist]

Bingo!
whether one agrees or not with his point...POTUS is putting out his over the top opinion, that aligns with the old Democrat/Liberal talking points, in order to diffuse all of their over the top anti-trump insanity.
what are they going to do...defend Bush or agree with Trump?

this guy is a master at spinning them all on their heads...

[rlmorel]

I supported President Bush in his actions then, and I still do in the military sense. As did many of our military, even if they didn’t want to be in Iraq of Afghanistan (and who could find fault with that?) I think our Military did an excellent job under difficult conditions, and I am proud of their conduct and performance.

And I honor (and regret) their injuries and deaths. I was able to visit Walter Reed and interact with them on many occasions, and it was hard to see. But I felt that I had to make that trip several times a year halfway down the country to participate in supporting them, because I supported going to war. And over the years, my wife and I have amply supported many causes for injured soldiers and veterans, and my wife went along with that because she knew that if I was to support the actions, I had to support the men involved in the action. That said, in my individual interactions with the wounded and veterans, I felt that they appreciated our support (and those who were with me) far more than the people from Code Pink who were often protesting outside Walter Reed, which I could see actively bothered (and sometimes confused) them. And they appreciated our support, even in the event they did not support the actions.

Outside of that, I had many issues with Bush on various domestic and cultural issues, and the further away from his Presidency he gets, his actions have caused me to feel a dislike and open contempt for him I didn’t think I would attain.

But here I am...

[proust]

I really would like to see Dubya building houses in Iraq Jimmy Carter style. Real nation building. Yet for some reason he isn’t doing it.

[Snickering Hound]

In the 1964 Presidential campaign, Goldwater was insisting that Johnson was soft on communism and it was sticking.

The New York Times was having fits in their editorials.

So he got his Gulf of Tonkin resolution in Aug 64'.

The Iraq troop surge of 07-08 worked.

What would become ISIS had been chased out to Eastern Syria with very few followers.

Then Field Marshal Von Bamster became president...

[Buckeye McFrog]

I understand what Bush was trying to do — make a fairly modern Middle East country into a Shining Democracy by removing their brutal hated dictator. He hoped the rest of the Muslim World would be enlightened, see the success and follow.

That only works if you actually buy the idea that Islam is a "religion of peace" like Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism. Democracies only work in an environment of tolerance, and there is no tolerance in Islam. W swallowed the Kool-Aid apparently.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

They’re both globalists, so yeah.

[fishtank]

So why invade Iraq when it Saudi Arabia who did 9-11?

[newfreep]

Thanks - I never saw that video before but wish it was longer for context.

[rlmorel]

I would guess for much the same reason we go after Andrew McCabe instead of Barack Obama. Not excusing it. Just taking into account the mechanisms of the world in 2001.

[DoughtyOne]

You’ve always got a very low availability of jobs over there in the more sparse areas. The young men are looking for something to do, and if there’s any money involved, they’ll play for whichever team is paying.

It’s my take that players for al Qaeda are ready and willing to play for ISIS, if they get paid to. If they get a new Ak-47 they can run off with after their service, so much the better.

I think McCain, Clinton, Obama, and others played right into the hands of the Islamic planners, who wanted to go take back Iraq. New arms, lots of cash...

The rest is history.

[pepsi_junkie]

Bush keeps attacking Trump, passive aggressively but attacking nonetheless. The problem for Bush is that it’s really really easy to remind people why his popularity was in the toilet in his second term. And Trump is just the man to do it.

[rlmorel]

Yes. When I explain to people that with a President like Trump, I take the good with the bad, the bad is this, IMO. Doesn’t lessen my support for him even one whit, but I suppose I would rather see him fry other fish right now.

But I’m not him, so...I’m fine with it.

[Alberta's Child]

I don't even need to speculate on this. There's no question that the single biggest priority of the Bush family was to turn the U.S. military into a mercenary force that would be deployed at the request of their radical Islamic real estate investment partners in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.

Donald J. Trump is president today because Republicans finally got sick of having a Sunni Muslim at the top of their presidential ticket all the time.

[pepsionice]

If you go down to the details of financing the 9-11 crews...it’s all Saudi-influenced. I think Bush’s staff sat there for several days trying to contemplate the avoidance of identifying this angle and this whole Saddam-angle was the only way to avoid talking about punishing Saudi Arabia.

I tend to also think the ‘death’ of Vince Foster probably was a lead-in to issues/problems, and if real law enforcement had done their job....it would have lead back to Saudi players.

If you go and look at the mess of the Middle East today...taking out Saddam was a terrible mistake in the end. He may have been very stupid on invading Kuwait, but we made things ten times worse in the end.

[TADSLOS]

The plan was to destabilize the ME and flood the west with third-world primitives.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!