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Is the United States on the verge of civil war?
SF Chronicle ^ | Sep. 29, 2018 | victor davis hanson

Posted on 09/30/2018 10:57:22 PM PDT by aquila48

Americans keep dividing into two hostile camps.

It seems the country is back to 1860 on the eve of the Civil War, rather than in 2018, during the greatest age of affluence, leisure and freedom in the history of civilization.

The ancient historian Thucydides called the civil discord that tore apart the fifth century B.C. Greek city-states “stasis.” He saw stasis as a bitter civil war between the revolutionary masses and the traditionalist middle and upper classes. Something like that ancient divide is now infecting every aspect of American life.

Americans increasingly are either proud of past U.S. traditions, ongoing reform and current American exceptionalism, or they insist that the country was hopelessly flawed at its birth and must be radically reinvented to rectify its original sins.

No sphere of life is immune from the subsequent politicization: not movies, television, professional sports, late-night comedy or colleges. Even hurricanes are typically leveraged to advance political agendas.

What is causing America to turn differences into these bitter hatreds — and why now?

The internet and social media often descend into an electronic lynch mob. In a nanosecond, an insignificant local news story goes viral. Immediately hundreds of millions of people use it to drum up the evils or virtues of either progressivism or conservatism.

Anonymity is a force multiplier of these tensions. Fake online identities provide cover for ever greater extremism — on the logic that no one is ever called to account for his or her words.

Speed is also the enemy of common sense and restraint. Millions of bloggers rush to be the first to post their take on a news event, without much worry about whether it soon becomes a “fake news” moment of unsubstantiated gossip and fiction.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anothercw2; anothercwii; cw2; cwii; jesusagain; repeatcw2; repeatcwii; vdh; yetanothercw2; yetanothercwii
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1 posted on 09/30/2018 10:57:22 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Immigration especially illegal can help.


2 posted on 09/30/2018 11:01:09 PM PDT by RightLady (Save Western Civilization.)
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To: aquila48

If the dems don’t get their way, they will keep escalating to total violence. This SCOTUS battle makes this obvious.


3 posted on 09/30/2018 11:01:12 PM PDT by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: aquila48

Didn’t Senator Bernie Sanders start off every one of his rallies with “It looks like you’re ready for a revolution!”


4 posted on 09/30/2018 11:02:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: aquila48

On the verge? Hell, it’s inevitable at this point. It may be next year, it may be in 10 years, but it’s coming.


5 posted on 09/30/2018 11:04:15 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: aquila48

You bet we are, but this one will be very decisive!


6 posted on 09/30/2018 11:07:41 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Trump IS MY president and I'm damn proud of him!)
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To: DesScorp
". . . it may be in 10 years, but it’s coming."

I figure it's more like six years.

7 posted on 09/30/2018 11:08:08 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: aquila48


Speed is also the enemy of common sense and restraint. Millions of bloggers rush to be the first to post their take on a news event, without much worry about whether it soon becomes a “fake news” moment of unsubstantiated gossip and fiction.

wrong

leftists are masters of incrementalism, frogs brought to boil in the pot.

they've been cooking us in their educational system leftist stew for 50 years or more.


8 posted on 09/30/2018 11:09:08 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: aquila48

They ask the questions as if it’s a recent issue. The USA has been on the verge of another Civil War since the early 60s.


9 posted on 09/30/2018 11:09:41 PM PDT by Notthereyet (Notthereyet)
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To: aquila48

Civil War was the Republicans, mostly from the North, against the Democrats, mostly from the South, and slave owners. The North won and made the Democrats free their slaves. About the same issues this time.


10 posted on 09/30/2018 11:09:55 PM PDT by looois
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To: aquila48
 
 
On the verge of stringing up politicians from light poles - yeah.
 
Citizens organizing and blasting away at each other? - naw. Lot of snarling and passive aggression going on, but a long ways from unfettered violence articles like this bring up.
 
 

11 posted on 09/30/2018 11:14:34 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: looois

“Civil War was the Republicans, mostly from the North, against the Democrats, mostly from the South, and slave owners. The North won and made the Democrats free their slaves”

Oops, I just stole this. Sorry.


12 posted on 09/30/2018 11:16:50 PM PDT by missthethunder
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To: aquila48

Yes, but the civil war has been going on for some time now, its just that bullets aren’t flying... yet.


13 posted on 09/30/2018 11:18:14 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: aquila48

Nahhhh. The totalitarian left will just incrementaly steal more and more elections with their best new found fraud gadget, the electronic voting machine, and then the Marxo-Globalist propaganda jaugernaut will back up all the election results with fake polls and the people will gradually accept it. Just like Europe.


14 posted on 09/30/2018 11:18:17 PM PDT by User900
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To: aquila48
Yes.

Leftists basically won the "Culture Wars" in the last 50 years and now dominate the News Media, Entertainment, Academic, and Judicial sectors as well as Government and large Corporate Bureaucracies.

That has had bad consequences, and now the Leftist grip on electoral systems is faltering, as people come to understand those consequences. But the Leftists will not voluntarily relinquish power anywhere.

The Leftists have clearly demonstrated that they will not accept elections unless they win them. And if they do win elections, they will subjugate their opponents without limits.

That is the recipe for Civil War. Add in one severe economic downturn and spark the mixture with one trivial but violent incident and the fireworks begin.

15 posted on 09/30/2018 11:19:32 PM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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The North won and made the Democrats free their slaves. About the same issues this time.

and make no mistake, lyndon baines johnson's (dumbocrap) great society was targeted to make welfare mothers financially independent encouraging welfare fathers to leave: thus the nearly TOTAL destruction of black families.

IMHO, the only thing better than mccain being dead is lbj being dead.


16 posted on 09/30/2018 11:22:15 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: aquila48; Impy; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; LS; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; ...

The values system of each group are so anathema to the other, which is a central problem. As long as the nation had shared Christian values in the past, we could overcome difficulties and strife.

Now, you have one group that believes in those values (Conservatives), and another that despises the Christian God and hates everything those values represent. What the left calls “values” are not even so. They want man (themselves, that is) to control everything, every little aspect of life (even the weather !) as they define it at a given moment, which is an impossibility.

One side will HAVE to decisively defeat the other. They cannot coexist in the same nation. It is intolerable.


17 posted on 09/30/2018 11:23:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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18 posted on 09/30/2018 11:23:08 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: lapsus calami
"Citizens organizing and blasting away at each other? - naw."

Steve Scalise might like to have a word with you.

19 posted on 09/30/2018 11:24:38 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: aquila48

Yes we are...but nothing says that we can’t round them up before they round us up. Sterilize and deport is my motto.


20 posted on 09/30/2018 11:25:05 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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