Posted on 11/12/2018 11:00:22 AM PST by Drew68
A police officer mistakenly shot and killed a security guard at a bar in Chicago's south suburbs early Sunday morning, Chicago’s Fox 32 reported.
Witnesses said a security guard told a group of "drunk men" to leave a Robbins bar around 4 a.m. An armed suspect later came back inside the bar and opened fire, WGN-TV reported, citing witnesses.
Armed security guards returned fire, the report said. One the guards -- Jemel Roberson, 26 -- apprehended the suspect outside, witnesses said. Roberson then requested help from Midlothian Police, the Cook County Sheriff's Office said.
A witness told the station that Roberson was holding the suspect on the ground when one of two responding officers fatally shot him.
"The security guard that got killed, he caught somebody and had his knee on him the whole time," said one witness cited by Fox 32. "Just waiting on the police to get there. I guess when the police got there, they probably thought he was one of the bad guys, cause he had his gun on the guy and they shot him."
Four other people, including the shooter, suffered non-life threatening injuries, WGN-TV reported. Midlothian police confirmed that one of its two responding officers opened fire. The officer's identity was not released.
Roberson was reportedly a church organist who was training to become a police officer.
"He was getting ready to train and do all that stuff, so the very people he wanted to be family with took his life," said Pastor Patricia Hill of Purposed Church.
The Cook County Sheriff's Office is investigating the first shooting, while the State Police Public Integrity Task Force is investigating the police shooting.
Robbins is a sparsely-populated village about a 30-minute drive south of Chicago.
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That seems like a traumatic incident.
I still don’t see what would be wrong with the police simply not shooting hell out of everyone they see with a gun, as an alternative.
Not being black would probably help.
Ex brother in law was a cop. He quit, and I asked why. He said he was getting the “cop attitude” hanging around only cops, drinking with them, etc. I asked him what he meant. He said there are two types of people, cops and their families and perps. He explained a perp was someone who committed a crime or would commit a crime. I asked if I was a perp and he said yes. He said that type of thinking eventually made him sick, to see his fellow cops treating everyone they dealt with as a perp.
I’d agree with that, unless the gun gets purposely/accidentally points at the cops.
I’d agree with that, too.
511 murders YTD in Chicago and cops shoot a security guard.
511 murders YTD in Chicago and cops shoot a security guard.
Yeah, we can't actually expect cops to use any actual judgement before they open fire.
Nevertheless, the Founders would likely be appalled at our insouciant handing-over of our personal security to government agents, as well as the mindset that says “here are the actions that you, as an armed citizen must take in order for law-enforcement not to kill you.”
Leaving exceptions for which direction the weapon my “accidentally” be pointed (for the police only) is a glaring capitulation to the state.
Would you support armed citizens opening fire on law-enforcement officers who inadvertently or otherwise, point a weapon in their direction?... Of course you wouldn’t, and neither do I.
But it bears keeping in mind that a police officer is just another citizen, (except that he or she is in the employ of the state.) No more moral, or righteous, or valuable to their families and those who love them than you or I.
I may be out of the mainstream, but I abhor the very idea of contracting out my, or my family’s security to the state or it’s agents; especially if the cost of that contract is to place those state agents above and beyond the rest of the citizenry; and to imbue them with the power to take a man’s life based on poor or incomplete information, and then be held blameless for that action.
Nothing in the story about any dogs.
Why is this in breaking news? /S
Whoa.
I have a friend who was a Brinks Guard.
Some dummy tried to rob him and he turned the guy into worm food.
No argument with most of that.
But today’s reality is what it is, and we do what we have to do to try not to get killed.
With BLM/intifa etc etc etc ambushing and killing so many cops, I can’t blame them, to a degree. But I’ve seem some videos of cops’ blatant murder of citizens. I’ve also had some LEO friends and first-time LEO meets, who I tell I’m carrying concealed, and they have no problem with it.
+1 for your friend. That’s his job. I hate robbers, thieves, murderers and rapists; just as soon see all of them dead.
I bet You’re careful about
scratching your Back.
not true.
Actually true.
Sorry.
There’s a huge difference between Armed and unarmed security.
Unarmed are mostly former felons that just need a job.
Well, perhaps where you are, but here, it is mostly college football players, wrestlers, and construction guys moonlighting.
Heck my son bounced for a while because he doesn’t partcularly like to drink but enjoyed the scene.
No, just holster and state clearly who you are “”security”” etc. All that extraneous motion will be mistaken for threatening actions.
Bouncers maybe
Felons can not get jobs as armed security
Most of the armed security are cops
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