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Trump’s indefensible defense of Saudi Arabia
Hot Air ^ | November 21, 2018 | Bonnie Kristian

Posted on 11/21/2018 2:08:27 PM PST by yoe

But the United States’ strangely close relationship with Saudi Arabia is not of Trump’s creation. We’ve been committed to Riyadh for years, maintaining the alliance through administrations from both major parties. It is not difficult to imagine, say, former President Barack Obama — originator of U.S. backing for Saudi intervention in Yemen and Riyadh’s favorite arms dealer — making essentially the same move in response to MBS’s lies.

I have no illusions that the United States will only deal with “nice” nations that love liberty, justice, and democracy. In fact, as messy as they can be, I think trade and diplomacy stand the strongest chance of peacefully moving oppressive and otherwise unsavory countries toward freedom and normalcy. But that realism does not mean that cultivating this close alliance with Saudi Arabia is defensible. Khashoggi’s death has forced a conversation we should have been having anyway, a conversation about how staying allied with the Saudi regime violates the values we claim without benefiting our national interest. This is fundamentally a partnership with just another murderous and oppressive Mideast dictatorship that undermines regional stability and makes us look like hypocrites in the process.

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You would have to have the facts about this in order to have a meaningful discussion. Killing in cold blood is wrong but then so is female genital mutilation, and Honor Killing, both done in the name of Islam in the USA.
1 posted on 11/21/2018 2:08:27 PM PST by yoe
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“Nations have no permanent friends or allies, they only have permanent interests.” —Lord Palmerston


2 posted on 11/21/2018 2:10:20 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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The USA sold its soul to Saudi Arabia nearly 100 years ago, when it locked itself into the oil for security arrangement upon the creation of ARAMCO.


3 posted on 11/21/2018 2:11:45 PM PST by EURASLEEP (The EU is Crashing and They're Asleep at the Wheel)
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Where was the outrage by media and RINO's when this happened:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/1461368/Daniel-Pearl-refused-to-be-sedated-before-his-throat-was-cut.html

4 posted on 11/21/2018 2:13:15 PM PST by entropy12 (One million LEGAL immigrants/year is too many, without vetting for skills, Wealth or English skills.)
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Is this anti-Islam by the Marxist Media?


5 posted on 11/21/2018 2:14:16 PM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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Gotta love the journaille's crocodile tears over this bogus "journalist." It isn't even a matter of honor among thieves; it's just another opportunity to buzzbomb Trump.
6 posted on 11/21/2018 2:16:33 PM PST by Blurb2350
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Kashogi was a Muslim Brotherhood terrorist. The current Crown Prince is a moderate, who (for instance) is permitting Saudi women to drive cars.

Trump has taken the right side. And it’s certain that if Barak Obama was still in office, he would have taken the wrong side. He ALWAYS did.


7 posted on 11/21/2018 2:17:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Trump is right, as usual.

Throwing the world into chaos because of the murder of this guy would not be in anyone’s best interests.

Yet it’s so CLEAR that the media has gotten their talking points (from who? WHO PULLS THEIR DAMN STRINGS EVERY DAY?!). On Fox News this morning it was obvious there’s an intentional effort to push Trump into destroying our relationship with the Saudis over this... why? So gas prices can skyrocket and Trump can lose popularity, making it easier for the evil bastards to try to kick him out of office for... well, being orange or something?

Truly, truly evil. And when you see what they’re doing on a daily basis it gets frustrating as hell because there doesn’t seem to be anything we can do about it except complain.


8 posted on 11/21/2018 2:18:30 PM PST by Pravious
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Here is the truth:

If this happened under Obama, the people attacking President Trump and the people defending him would be arguing the exact opposite of their current positions.

9 posted on 11/21/2018 2:18:37 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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Not rewarding Riyadh with weapons is a pretty simple ask — a task with which Trump should be able and eager to comply. What's stopping him?

So we should cut off billions of dollars in arms sales (and the American jobs that go along with it) because the reformist Saudi leader, MBS, may be linked via associates to the murder of a troublesome Islamist Muslim-Brotherhood terrorist-sympathizing journalist?

Who cares about Khashoggi? As far as I'm concerned, he pissed off the wrong people. I don't care one whit about the guy. I just don't!

10 posted on 11/21/2018 2:20:10 PM PST by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 // Click my profile page for great Russian pop music videos.)
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President is that made a strong and irrefutable argument during the press conference yesterday for keeping our relationship Saudi Arabia.

These guys simply want to deny reality.


11 posted on 11/21/2018 2:20:41 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Yup. This is just a pretext to attack Trump.

His enemies don’t give a rat’s rear end about Khashoggi or the Saudis.

They want to undermine and discredit Trump on all fronts.


12 posted on 11/21/2018 2:21:27 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory O f A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-khashoggi-killing-horrendous-but-saudi-stablity-paramount/


13 posted on 11/21/2018 2:21:55 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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So I guess these fools just want us to destroy our relationship with Saudi Arabia, POOF, gone, that is what they want? They had NO problem with Obama bending over and KISSING the Saudi King’s ring, that was OK with them


14 posted on 11/21/2018 2:22:18 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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This is just a pretext to attack Trump.

As is most subjects of 'rat outrage these days.

15 posted on 11/21/2018 2:22:53 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: yoe

Obama droned an American to death and no one said a damn word.


16 posted on 11/21/2018 2:24:52 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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Bonnie Kristian

Lol, Bonnie, you’re a woman.

17 posted on 11/21/2018 2:26:40 PM PST by coaster123
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Obama was culpable in the murder of our citizens at Benghazi and nobody said a word.

The fake news media and the GOP leaders at the time were too busy taken alternate turns at licking out his asshole


18 posted on 11/21/2018 2:27:52 PM PST by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President!)
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We should get so upset with Latin American killings of their citizens on Latin American and US soil by the cartels that have ties directly to Mexican, central and South American governments. Thousands have lost their lives at the hands of the cartels. The Saudi oil cartel is not quite as prolific and open with deaths of their citizens by their hands, but they do happen. Moral being I guess, don’t cross your own government, especially morally corrupt ones, they have long arms.


19 posted on 11/21/2018 2:28:59 PM PST by redcatcherb412
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bump


20 posted on 11/21/2018 2:30:59 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("The word 'racist' is used to describe 'every Republican that's winning'" --Donald Trump)
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