Posted on 05/12/2019 1:26:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
YERUSHALAYIM - The “deal of the century” peace plan authored by the U.S. administration will not be revealed until mid-June at the earliest – after the upcoming Yom Tov of Shavuos. The date was named by U.S. envoy to the Middle East Jason Greenblatt in a weekend interview with Fox News.
Revelations of the plan, about which many rumors have been circulating for months, has been postponed several times, with the most recent proclaimed date after the recent Israeli election. Few details have been revealed about the plan, and in the interview, Greenblatt held to that stance. With that, he said regardless of the content of the plan, “the Trump administration won’t compromise on Israel’s security.”
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The “deal of the century” peace plan authored by Jarred Kushner and refined by Ivanka (aka, the Royal Couple, aka Javanka). The Israelis must take it or lose US funding. Jerusalem will be shared, but Palis have to disarm (Unhuh. Sure).
Hamas and Iran will be all over this deal, as once again its a fool’s choice for Israel: lose US funding or commit national suicide. Noble Peace Prize for Javanka, just a side effect - pay no attention.
If and when this brings peace, will you eat your words?
Easy - the Pali are already lined up against it. Peace will only happen in the ME when all Jews and Christians are dead or converted, or Mecca and Medina are nuked - you pick.
First it was after the Israeli elections. Then it was after Ramadan. Now it’s after Shauvot. The plan is DOA anyway so why wait?
It won’t bring peace. It will make Evangelicals and Orthodox Jews love President Trump less, and that is a bad thing.
You and I 2ndD are the only ones that saw this deal in the works, for me it hit me like a ton of lead in March of 17', I could see the chess moves.
I suspect the ISIS leader wacked in Western Syria was not by the Syrians, insert 3 letter agency and or allies that are trying to mop up the bad guys so the PA has no other options, when this is unveiled, like a boss baby like a boss is how PDJT roles.
BTW, China playing hardball, KJU firing missiles, Iran saber rattling, these are all unrelated right? Horse$h!+, they are related IMHO, Iran is collapsing from within and these buds are trying to shore them up. Perhaps this is why the delay, to rap some of these deals up, smooth them out, With Iran gone if you will, what then does the PA do? they are ugats without them, the have to come to the table, none of those countries I mentioned want Israel to win, it would be the ultimate clarion call for freedom in the hearts of the people in those countries to say no to the despots that have been screwing them for years running those countries I will not visit evah. They can't have them revolting, it would light a fire in the hearts like you read about....
I previewed this, remember?
With the caveat about not compromising on Israel’s security, it seems to be telling the Palis to either disarm and play nice and be allowed to have your own lot and a mule or die spitting into the gift horse’s mouth...with our ‘lenience” for the way Israel retaliates these days, the message will either get through or a lot more Palis will be paying the price...seems like The “dreaded Kush” did OK
The Palis are finished.
Jerusalem will NOT be shared....period.
There have been all kinds of crazy and contradicting leaks about this plan. I am not at all worried, because the Palis won’t accept it anyway. But it will have one benefit in resetting the baseline starting point, putting Oslo in the dustbin.
If this plan were as bad for Israel as some fear, Pompeo and Bolton would be strongly against it, and they have been quiet.
It’s pretty clear to me that the situation is much different than it was 20 years ago - now, time is on Israel’s side.
“The “deal of the century” peace plan authored by Jarred Kushner and refined by Ivanka (aka, the Royal Couple, aka Javanka). The Israelis must take it or lose US funding. Jerusalem will be shared, but Palis have to disarm (Unhuh. Sure).
Hamas and Iran will be all over this deal, as once again its a fool’s choice for Israel: lose US funding or commit national suicide. Noble Peace Prize for Javanka, just a side effect - pay no attention.”
Right. You know this how?
FWIW, IG report likely out before then.
I’m sure it will be totally amazing, just like Jared’s Crime Bill letting out all of those felons locked up in the 1990s.
Israel and the indigenous Arab population of the former Ottoman districts of Syria and the British Mandate of Palestine are at war.
The nature of the contesting parties is such that their aims are irreconcilable. Peace will not come until one side or the other achieves victory.
You cannot "negotiate" peace between unwilling parties. The parties are both willing to "negotiate" a peace that would disguise a victory that neither side has won, that is, both sides would like to achieve victory without all-out war, and both sides still believe this is possible.
It is not.
Peace will come to these lands when one side decisively defeats the other, either by genocide, forced expulsion, or some combination of the two.
Most Israelis believe, I think, that in the foolish words of Golda Meir, "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us". Of course, the Arabs already love their children. They love them SO much that they dream of their early departure for paradise, out of this vale of tears, in the act of blowing up a bus full of Jews.
The Arabs, on the other hand, believe falsely that the Jews are a) cowards and b) non-indigenous, but also c) good at math. Only one of these beliefs is true. The Arabs figure that, being good at math, the Jews will figure out that the Arab birthrate and the Jewish birthrate will lead Jews to conclude that, on the whole, they would enjoy life more in Boca Raton.
It is this bilateral self-delusion that allows the status quo to persist.
Obviously, the "Palestinians" are not going to accept peace in their hearts under these conditions. And the Israelis are not going to prevail by offering the Arabs the fruits of their superior moral and technological civilization - because that superiority is why the Arabs hate them.
I do not know what the immigration+birthrate vs. emigration numbers look like for Israel. I know when I was living in Brooklyn in my 20s, aliyah was all the thing. It seemed like someone else was leaving every week. In my medical school class, there were more officers in the IDF than in the US Armed Forces, when we were still in Vietnam (not counting Berry Plan men).
Now? Just like the above, it's totally subjective, but it seems as if there are communities of Israelis in many cities, engaged in careers, owning homes, planning to return "someday".
Anyway, with regard to your original question - "If and when" the Kushner Plan brings peace to the Middle East, I will be happy - but also astonished.
[ Greenblatt: Trump ME Deal Won’t Be Revealed Until After Shavuos ]
I don’t know that this is “the” deal but “the” deal is certainly going to happen one day, and perhaps not too far in the future as it seems to be the “hope” of many.
It will bring “change” - few will understand until “the” deal is engaged and they see what happens.
No, nobody wants endless war but few realize Satan will be applauding “the” deal, whenever it comes. For then, he will be able to put “his man” to work, as a last gasp.
For lurkers, read Daniel 9:26-27 about “the” deal, whenever it is to come.
The 7 “weeks” and 62 “weeks” have long since passed.
“The” deal will mark the beginning of the 70th (and final) Week. “Final” meaning the end of this (mostly Church) Age before the Second Coming.
Again, I do not know that this is “the” deal. I expect “the” deal to be confirmed by a man out of the European Union. (fwiw)
or not
Agreed
Dead surrogates mean toothless Iran
You mean this article or eons ago. either way I was opining maybe too much and not a mean way, pardon my ramble, but it did it to support that this plan even before it is out as I have faith in Jarret probably the only on FR that does as I gets him and Ivanka on a different level.
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