"Vice Assistant General Manager in charge of certain things"
Posted on 05/17/2019 3:17:54 AM PDT by C19fan
You have to work hard to get your dream job. But your dream job title might just be a pay cut away. According to one hiring expert, more and more job applicants initiate conversations about lowering their starting salaries in favor of getting the job title they want, with no change to their job description and responsibilities.
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As the article states, that is for the purposes of their resume looking good for the next offer. Not simply vanity.
Millennials advance by changing jobs more often, so this is the more important for them.
“As the article states, that is for the purposes of their resume looking good for the next offer. “
I worked for a company that gave me the title “Manager of Sustaining Engineering.” They did this because to call me an Engineering Manager made me more marketable. I had 28 people in multiple departments and I managed design and development engineering. Later, they gave me all of the responsibilities of a director, but no change in title. I got some extra money instead. Yes, all of this did damage my marketability and that was the point. They didn’t want me to take another job.
The firing company is NOT permitted to tell the hiring company actual references or performance info or opinions. At most, they can only that the person was emplyed from date one to date two.
I want the title of Grand Pooh-Bah! That’ll show the world how impotent I am! (Pun intended)
For people in some industries, this may be a brilliant move.
Posts calling all Millenials stupid coming from Baby Boomers who gave us hippies and GenXers who gave us 8 years of Clinton in 3...2...1...
50% of bank employees are vice presidents. This has been true for decades.
My job won’t give me the matching title - or pay (even though I’m introduced to new employers with it), so rather than fruitlessly working harder to get it I just do the minimum (which is still more than many others). I don’t make a ton of money, but probably come as close to “having at all” that a family guy can get.
Banks are the worst; they have plenty of people with high titles and 0 staff. Seems they give out titles instead of money (due to the high turnover I see in the industry); I’m sure the consolidations didn’t help.
One of my most valued employees got ‘restless on the farm,’ intimating she wanted to be on salary. So I put her on salary at the same pay and she was happy as a lark. No more time card punching ... and no more overtime pay. Whatever works.
Laws have been passed to prevent companies from giving titles out to regular staff then killing them with unpaid overtime. Those laws were long overdue; telling someone making $25,000 that they have to work unpaid overtime (just because their title is “assistant manager”) is absurd - and wrong.
“My job won’t give me the matching title - or pay (even though I’m introduced to new employers with it),...”
What I did was use the title on my resume that the company would verify and then, parenthetically, the title they would know. I then listed the responsibilities that went with the correct title. It worked several times to get interviews.
Vice President of Customer Relations at McDonalds = counter clerk
After several 100+ hour weeks the company gave me a promotion.
No raise, but I got promoted!
And at the new level, I wasn’t allowed comp time!
“Gee - thanks for nothing.”
“Well - you’ll get it in the end eventually.”
“What do you mean? I’m getting it in the end right now!”
I left a few months later.
One of the guys I worked with at one of the Big 3 automakers had a very cool job title: Senior Consulting Scientist
He actually was pretty darned sharp...
When I was in H.R. for a bazillion horrid years, when a company called or wrote for references we couldn’t offer any information. The most we could do was to CONFIRM what the applicant told them on dates and title. I think we could confirm salary for a while, but that ended.
I worked in a senior management role in a mid-sized company, and I was astonished at the idiocy I saw in a lot of employees (not just Millenials) who were clueless about how a business operates.
I don't know which was worse: the long-time employee who wanted to be a "VP of [INSERT MEANINGLESS TITLE HERE]" or the junior employee who wanted to be paid 25% more for no reason whatsoever.
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