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Coins suggest Islam began MUCH later - a Synopsis
PfanderFilms ^ | 1-12-2020 | Jay Smith

Posted on 01/23/2020 9:56:21 AM PST by fishtank

" PfanderFilms 26.5K subscribers Earlier in the week Jay and Hatun did a 'livestream' entitled "7th century Coins tell another story of Islam' beginnings".

It was almost 2 hours long, much too long for most people to sit through.

So, Jay decided to record another much shorter video, around 45 minutes long, which went through the stages of the coins evolution, for those who wanted it more 'Quick, Concise, yet Comprehensive' (the 3 C's)."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: coins; godsgravesglyphs; islam
From the site:

"One would therefore assume that the earliest 7th century coins, minted during the time of Muhammad, and during the times of the "4 rightly guided caliphs" (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali) would be replete with references to them, along with religious references to Muhammad, Allah, the Qur'an, and perhaps Mecca, even the Shahada...yet, they simply aren't.

In fact, the coins from that century tell us a completely different story.

Amazingly they are almost completely Christian Byzantine coins, replete with images of emperors, and crosses; possibly not surprising since it was the Byzantines who controlled northern Arabia. But these coins were not minted by the Byzantines, but by Arabs, who should have referenced something to do with Islam on their Obverse (front) and Reverse (back) sides. But they simply don't for the first 40 years.

Between 640 AD – 660 AD, the Arab Proxy states use Christian symbols (crosses), suggesting they were Christian!

When we get to the first real "Muslim Caliphate", the Umayyads, inaugurated by the caliph Mu'awiyya, in 661 AD, we find that his coins are all either Christian in nature, or reflect Persian Zoroastrian culture, right up until his death in 680 AD."

1 posted on 01/23/2020 9:56:21 AM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank; BenLurkin

Related to your post here:

Secret ‘piggy bank’ of 1,200-year-old gold coins discovered in Israel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3805740/posts


2 posted on 01/23/2020 9:57:18 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

“It was almost 2 hours long, much too long for most people to sit through.

So, Jay decided to record another much shorter video, around 45 minutes long”

Doh!


3 posted on 01/23/2020 9:58:13 AM PST by edwinland
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To: fishtank

Jay and Hatun comment on the coins in this exhibit.

4 posted on 01/23/2020 10:01:51 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: edwinland

Here’s a 19 minute variation....

Islamic Coins - Responding to your questions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPmtJ2um1M0

.......

Or, just read the article Jay posted on the first link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcxhxbuGmbM


5 posted on 01/23/2020 10:04:16 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: edwinland

They’re almost certainly PhD academic types. No communication is done in a concise, efficient manner.


6 posted on 01/23/2020 10:16:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


7 posted on 01/23/2020 10:36:58 AM PST by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster

Someone needs to tell them that youtube pays them by the view, not by the word.


8 posted on 01/23/2020 11:29:38 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: fishtank

For later.


9 posted on 01/23/2020 1:24:56 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Yeah, if the tweet doesn’t fit,

then article or book must quit.

/sarc

“There’s too much readin’ goin’ on out there!”

“Reading comprehension is tough!!”

“The problem with libraries is too many of the
books don’t have pictures!”

“My attention span is only
15 seconds looooo..... SQUIRREL!!”


10 posted on 01/24/2020 5:03:02 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

I don’t need a Gone With The Wind-length video to understand what can be transmitted in a page or two of text. If you do, and have time for it, you be you.


11 posted on 01/24/2020 5:40:45 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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