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Washington Post Op-ed: ‘Give the Elites a Bigger Say in Choosing the President’
Breitbart ^ | February 19, 2020 | JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 02/19/2020 7:20:42 AM PST by maggief

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To: maggief

So what happened to “our democracy is in danger”?


41 posted on 02/19/2020 7:40:57 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Texas Eagle
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42 posted on 02/19/2020 7:45:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The DNC should just sell their top rat candidate via bidding on EBAY!)
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To: goldstategop

“We don’t want upstart rank and file voters getting ideas...”

You left out about 64 million Deplorable Voters. We are among the rankest voters in the eyes of the elite rats.


43 posted on 02/19/2020 7:49:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The DNC should just sell their top rat candidate via bidding on EBAY!)
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To: trad_anglican

The headline isn’t deceptive. Giving voters a choice of pre-approved options isn’t democracy, it’s veiled oligarchy.

Yes, the current system is imperfect. A slate of “normal” candidates loses by splitting the majority vote, giving a plurality to the outlier nutcase. Would be best at this point if the “normal” candidates were to huddle and decide which objectively has the best chance, the remainders checking out lest the nut win. Other solutions welcome for consideration, but most quickly prove little more than handing power to an unelected oligarchy.

The current system isn’t completely broken either. It’s how we got Trump: he was the outlier, and the remainder fragmented the majority vote so none could win against him (nor could they have won against Hillary). I’m not convinced Bernie isn’t the right choice for Democrats: fact is he IS the best embodiment of the party’s values, and the remainder are unelectable (vs Trump) twits. Bernie can’t win the general, but actually is the Left’s best chance to.

The problem with “Democratic Socialism” (which the article is premised on) is: who decides what goes on the ballot? if all options are practically indistinguishable, being whatever The Party would be happy with, why bother with voting?


44 posted on 02/19/2020 7:50:25 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Democrats oppose democracy.


45 posted on 02/19/2020 7:51:07 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Ahhhh. Iranian. Thank you.


46 posted on 02/19/2020 7:51:22 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ctdonath2; All

I say yes. Go ahead an let the elites choose a president. But he would only be president of the elites, not of the rest of us. Then the elites can obey whatever THEIR president says and the rest of us can just ignore him.

Come to think of it, it looks like they’ve already done that. Soros seems to be the current elite president with HRC as VP. The elites all do as they are told by this duo. They are trying to make the rest of us comply by various means - propaganda, trickery, threats of violence. But now that we have Trump and can see how they’ve been operating, it’s not working on the rest of us any more. Bwahahahaha.


47 posted on 02/19/2020 7:58:22 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: trad_anglican
.....parties pick the candidates .... the people decide who wins?

That's actually what the current system used to be. Primaries are meant to be HOW parties picked candidates. The primaries used to all take place within a much shorter time span.

"Settled Law" still says, I think, that the parties control primaries, and the state just administers them in the manner specified by the party. I recall when a state, California I think, changed primary rules in a way that one of the parties did not like. The party filed suit and quickly prevailed, with the court ruling that the primary was to be conducted in a manner specified by the party.

Below is one example of current judicial sanity:

https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/article236780358.html

In her decision, (South Carolina) Circuit Court Judge Jocelyn Newman said state law “unambiguously” says that the S.C. GOP has the right to decide whether it wants to hold a presidential primary, and because voters aren’t directly voting for a candidate in the contest, state law does not apply to the presidential primary.

48 posted on 02/19/2020 8:00:45 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: maggief

Not even trying to hide it anymore.

L


49 posted on 02/19/2020 8:04:51 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: central_va

I’m waiting for that to happen in Venezuela.


50 posted on 02/19/2020 8:21:17 AM PST by chris37 (Impeach Chief Obama Injustice Roberts, a fraud, a clown and a tyrant!)
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To: ctdonath2
"It’s how we got Trump: he was the outlier, and the remainder fragmented the majority vote so none could win against him "

That's also how we wound up with McCain in 2008.

51 posted on 02/19/2020 8:34:21 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: trad_anglican

You have a screw loose? That would suck. That British system of the party presenting us candidates that the little people have no say in choosing would have given us Jeb. There would have never been a President Trump.


52 posted on 02/19/2020 8:58:00 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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But, but, but - I thought the dems wanted to get rid of the Electoral College for a popular vote. I’m so confused.


53 posted on 02/19/2020 9:00:48 AM PST by mykroar (Congratulations President Trump)
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To: maggief

I pay as much attention to a poli sci prof as I do the guy on the corner with the ‘The End Is Coming’ sandwich board.


54 posted on 02/19/2020 9:12:17 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: maggief

Who would want a country that looks like California,0


55 posted on 02/19/2020 9:15:13 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Rummyfan

I pay as much attention to a poli sci prof as I do the guy on the corner with the ‘The End Is Coming’ sandwich board.

At least with the sandwich board idiot, you can say get out of my way or that sandwich board becomes part of your rectum.


56 posted on 02/19/2020 9:26:44 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The DNC should just sell their top rat candidate via bidding on EBAY!)
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To: maggief

You mean like the Dim’s “superdelegates”?


57 posted on 02/19/2020 9:35:21 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: sanjuanbob

My sign at the 9/12 rally in Washington, DC, back in the day was “NO PAY, NO SAY”
Firm believer we need to only allow taxpayers. And all seniors who paid all of taxes all of their lives. We pay for this country, we should have the word on how it is run.


58 posted on 02/19/2020 10:03:58 AM PST by I_be_tc
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To: maggief

This is presented as a means to avoid the mess the Dems have made of the 2020 candidate selection. But it isn’t. It’s intended to keep a Trump from ever happening again.


59 posted on 02/19/2020 10:12:02 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: maggief
Oh why stop there?

We will just start a hereditary class of people who are the only ones who can be candidates. We'll call them... "Legislaturalists". And we can appoint managers to tell people who to vote for. We'll call them "managers".

What could go wrong eh Rob?

60 posted on 02/19/2020 10:26:18 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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