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The Left Took Over the Churches, and the Right Never Fought Back
American Thinker.com ^ | April 10, 2020 | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 04/10/2020 7:22:20 AM PDT by Kaslin

Amid so many historic aspects to the 2020 election, one bit of important history may be getting lost. While Trump has ushered in a whole new era in politics, changes to American church life during the last four years have been sweeping. This essay will provide an introduction to the church's present battles, for readers who may not have been following Christian media or who find the situation confusing.

Church, state, and culture

In my first academic book, Colorful Conservative: American Conversations with the Ancients from Wheatley to Whitman, I examined the origin of the present-day "conservative" mind. I did not follow the familiar methodology of Russell Kirk, but tried to look at literature.

I see increasingly that the core of American conservatism blends traditional and unconventional thinking. (I went over this in detail in this column.) While many conservative writers like to trace everything back to Burke, I argue that Burke was both traditional and conventional; this left out a huge bloc of the American right that was irreverent, pugnacious, or defiant to everything that came with contemporary conventions: peer pressure, intellectual fads, condescending pronouncements from experts, arrogant social experiments. Burke took peer pressure seriously but wanted to balance it with longstanding cultural prejudices (he did not see prejudices as a bad thing). Burke could explain the existence of the National Review, but he could not explain phenomena like MassResistance moms risking their safety to blockade drag queen story hour.

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To: Kaslin

“Give me liberty or give me death”

For me, not so much. Not getting a potentially deadly virus by staying away from gatherings of large groups of people makes total sense.

I’d rather LIVE and return to church when the risk is low.

It doesn’t matter what my governor says about it, our pastor weeks ago closed our church. The service is podcast live Sunday mornings.

A WISE move. The “church” is a “WHO” not a “WHAT”.


41 posted on 04/10/2020 8:28:27 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: bigcat32
Find what you need at most Lutheran Churches Missouri Synod. Even then check them out before you leap.

I grew up in the prior American Lutheran Church. In 1988, they took a giant leap to the left when they merged with the communist ELCA, which is part of the communist-loving NATIONAL COUNCIL OF CHURCHES. All these denominations mentioned by the author belong to the NCC. Run, don’t walk away from them. Anyone still attending one of those denominations, is supporting the drift toward Communism, They are not churches at all as they are left wing political organizations.

Shortly after that disgusting merger I drove by a LCMS and went inside and asked the pastor if the LCMS had an official position on abortion. He assured me the domination is 100% prolife. I asked him if the LCMS belonged to the NCC. He assured me they did not. We’ve been LCMS since.

42 posted on 04/10/2020 8:31:53 AM PDT by Wm F Buckley Republican
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To: fatboy

“How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!” Matt 7:14 (DR)

That was prior to Christ’s crucifixion.

contrast with....

9After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb!”

The church is always seemingly small in the present but across time and dimension...we are massive!

Don’t forget...we of the living are always surrounded by a “great crowd of witnesses”. We are never alone, in Spirit and in truth!


43 posted on 04/10/2020 8:44:48 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Kaslin

I did not know that about Albert Mohler. I’ve seen him talk with RC Sproul and thought he was a good guy but never really looked into his politics. Yikes!


44 posted on 04/10/2020 8:46:06 AM PDT by dragonblustar (I love reading Trump tweets in the morning.)
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To: crusty old prospector
We (Christians) are the church - the bride of Christ.

Where does the Bible say this?

45 posted on 04/10/2020 8:48:52 AM PDT by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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To: Kaslin

The left has taken over EVERY institution down to sports, the military and now the churches, which were the our last bastions, and WE on the right have just laid down like a beaten dog. It’s been a total and complete cultural rout. And they ain’t done humiliating us yet.


46 posted on 04/10/2020 8:56:13 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: nonsporting

I’ll let you search that one.


47 posted on 04/10/2020 8:57:11 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector
I’ll let you search that one.

You made the claim that "the Church" is the bride of Christ. If the Bible doesn't say it, it ain't so.

So, please provide the Biblical evidence for this.

48 posted on 04/10/2020 9:04:38 AM PDT by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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To: MrEdd

I blame the Lutherans and the whole Reformation thing.


49 posted on 04/10/2020 9:13:19 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: sarge83

Our Pastor is an old country boy also, ‘cept he is 6-3, 225. Speaks with a southern drawl and country as country is.


50 posted on 04/10/2020 9:18:40 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Bible predicted these type of days. Pray to the LORD GOD for mercy on this Republic.)
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To: Kaslin

It is hard to find a church that actually teaches from the bible. Even some take one verse out of context to push an agenda. IMHO.


51 posted on 04/10/2020 9:23:20 AM PDT by MAAG ( “Tetelestai”)
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To: Lisbon1940

No, the Catholic Church of the time had already turned into what Francis is today.

That was why there was a Luther.


52 posted on 04/10/2020 9:26:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: bigcat32
Try The OnLine Bible for searches that really work.
53 posted on 04/10/2020 9:33:45 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: nonsporting

Ever read the Book of Revelation?


54 posted on 04/10/2020 9:36:43 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: bigcat32

Sola scriptura church?


55 posted on 04/10/2020 9:36:55 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: laweeks

WHAT?? CALL THE BISHOP MONDAY!!


56 posted on 04/10/2020 9:57:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

An important analysis.


57 posted on 04/10/2020 10:13:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (He's a fake whistleblower. And, frankly, somebody ought to sue his ass off. --D.J.Trump)
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To: Kaslin

One of the reasons I left my church of 27 years was leftist refugee and immigrant policies. Do little to help poor here but very active in bringing in more poor.


58 posted on 04/10/2020 10:17:03 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: mdmathis6

mdmathis6, you have made my point for me. you said “That was prior to Christ’s crucifixion.”

That there will be many saved souls in the throne room is not questioned. If 1% of the population over 2000+ years of the church era are there then there will be quite a crowd in that room. But what about the other 99%?

You assume that somehow the human condition and the requirements for salvation suddenly changed with the cross of Christ. This is not supported by Scripture. True, the mission of the Church is different from the mission of OT Israel but gentiles could be saved prior to Christ same as Jews can be saved after the Cross.


59 posted on 04/10/2020 10:49:08 AM PDT by fatboy
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To: free_life

We left the Presbyterian USA denomination 20 years ago. We joined the conservative Wesleyan denomination. Prolife...


60 posted on 04/10/2020 11:05:32 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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