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Marine Corps under fire for eliminating elite scout sniper platoons from infantry battalions: 'Misguided'
Fox News ^ | 3/1/2023 | Greg Norman

Posted on 03/01/2023 9:31:03 AM PST by antidemoncrat

The criticism from the USMC Scout Sniper Association comes after Marine Corps leadership issued a memo ordering "immediate transition of Scout Sniper Platoons to Scout Platoons" as part of the Force Design 2030 plan to restructure how the branch operates.

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To: antidemoncrat

They’ve had brilliant wins in Vietnam, Iraq and afghanistan.


21 posted on 03/01/2023 10:32:36 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: antidemoncrat

How about an audit of Federal agencies with Sniper Teams?
If we don’t need them for our enemies, no need for domestic teams, eh?


22 posted on 03/01/2023 10:32:43 AM PST by pgobrien (Trump - not a politician .....a Leader!)
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To: antidemoncrat
Here’s the new camp pattern for Force Design 2030:

There are also new MOS’s for hair styling and interior decorating. Flight attendant will replace load master.

23 posted on 03/01/2023 10:34:55 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: antidemoncrat

You said a mouthful.....


24 posted on 03/01/2023 10:37:07 AM PST by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: Bulwyf
“ In the Canadian infantry, everyone is a marksman”

It depends on your definition of marksman. In the US Military a “designated marksman” can shoot from 500 to 600 meters consistently but generally patrols with the rest of his squad. A sniper can shoot out to 2000 meters. and is more trained in bushcraft to scout alone or with a spotter. I sincerely doubt that “everyone” in the Canadian infantry could qualify as a designated marksman as this is still a very high degree of precision that few can really accomplish.

25 posted on 03/01/2023 10:47:06 AM PST by circlecity
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To: antidemoncrat

They want the marine corps Woke Proof. They can’t have aggressive snipers. Our woke people might be offended.


26 posted on 03/01/2023 10:53:23 AM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: antidemoncrat

Snipers are extremely cost-effective on the battlefield. They can slow enemy troop movements to a crawl. They can assassinate senior enemy command officers. They can cause grave sabotage to weapons, transport and fuel. They can neutralize missiles and aircraft.

They can also glean a lot of ground intelligence, as well as emplace sensors and passive beacons, and predesignate targets with lasers that can later be used as target reference points.

While the military talks a lot about “multiplying factors” on the battlefield, snipers have just the opposite effect, acting as “divisive factors” against the enemy.

A sniper platoon plus and EOD (Explosive Ordnance Demolitions) platoon could effectively neutralize a country.


27 posted on 03/01/2023 11:06:37 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: antidemoncrat

Pew pew pew pew.


28 posted on 03/01/2023 11:07:03 AM PST by pas
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To: Ge0ffrey

Bad intentions . . . a complete moron gets something right every now and then, just by accident. . . .


29 posted on 03/01/2023 11:10:42 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: antidemoncrat

No armor, no artillery, no snipers. Maybe horse cavalry is coming to the Marine Corps? Cannon fodder is the future of the Corps.


30 posted on 03/01/2023 12:05:36 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: buckalfa

In Marine Corps Sniper school, at least when I was in, you made your own ghillie suit to match the terrain of where you were training and the current climate conditions.

So, with our new poufter platoons, they can make them any color they want!!

LOL!


31 posted on 03/01/2023 12:22:32 PM PST by ExTxMarine
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To: markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Ping.


32 posted on 03/01/2023 12:28:51 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: antidemoncrat

It’s not Austin doing it, but the woke and dumb Commandant General David Berger, who’s hellbent on turning the USMC strictly into security guards for the Navy.


33 posted on 03/01/2023 12:46:06 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: antidemoncrat

The new camo will be FABULOUS with all the colors of the rainbow to show the inclusive nature of our fighters.


34 posted on 03/01/2023 1:04:49 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: I want the USA back

Sam Brinton wasn’t stealing women’s clothing from airports. He is testing the new camo Marines will be required to wear.


35 posted on 03/01/2023 1:08:01 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: circlecity

They are eliminating the Scout Sniper Basic Course as well.

As a former A-6 Bombardier/Navigator (B/N) with time on the ground as a Forward Air Controller (FAC): Marine Corps Scout Snipers, along with AC-130 Gunships, A-10 Warthogs, and Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions (DPICM) are among a few of my favorite things.

As far as I am concerned, there is no such thing as too many Scout Snipers, but if you find yourself in “Operations Other than War,” they are indispensable.


36 posted on 03/01/2023 1:08:39 PM PST by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: circlecity

To compare, you need 4 quals to qualify for us special forces units. Coming out of battleschool I had 28. By time I left I was much higher. It’s apples and oranges. The commonwealth armies are the best trained and of them, Canadian have historically have been the best. All that is moot these days in the days of wokeness. One section of us (8) stopped an entire armoured division advance years ago at NTC. That commander was RTUed, but the point was made.


37 posted on 03/01/2023 1:22:25 PM PST by Bulwyf (Why? )
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To: antidemoncrat

Where did this decision originate - with The Corps itself or from higher within the DoD?


38 posted on 03/01/2023 2:13:48 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

who’s the genius what came up wi this brilliant idea?


39 posted on 03/01/2023 3:43:25 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Bulwyf

Good grief, spouting off about your quals again?


40 posted on 03/01/2023 3:47:41 PM PST by DallasGal (You won't see it for what it is until you stop looking through the lense of what you want it to be)
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