Posted on 03/06/2023 7:56:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Thinking about putting your money into China?
Think again. According to what respected emerging markets investor Mark Mobius described, the place has become a roach motel for investors. Money goes in, but now it can't come out.
According to Asia Financial:
In an interview on Fox Business, the billionaire, now 86, cautioned other investors to be “very, very careful” about investing in an economy under a tight government grip.
“I have an account with HSBC in Shanghai. I can’t take my money out. The government is restricting flow of money out of the country,” Mobius, founder of Mobius Capital Partners, said in an interview published on March 2.
“I can’t get an explanation of why they’re doing this … They’re putting all kinds of barriers. They don’t say: No, you can’t get your money out. But they say: give us all the records from 20 years of how you made this money … This is crazy.”
That's expropriation, a communist specialty, whether the Chicoms are going to admit it or not. Not letting someone get their money out is the same as keeping it, stealing it, helping oneself to it. Why they would do this to a famous investor with a big global audience to let the other investors know is something of a mystery, this is tremendously bad public relations for them, but based on their other actions, it seems as though at this point they don't care.
Already we know they're getting mean, what with their crazed COVID lockdowns, which drew tremendous popular protests, their stepped-up spy activity against the West, their machinations in Latin America, their intimidation of their neighbors, particularly Taiwan, and their massive military buildup. Today they announced that they'd ramp up their defense spending 7.2%.
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You mean China puts China First?
What a concept!
When governments do this it generally means they’re trying to get ahead of a big crash or, as someone else said, the leaders are planning on fleeing with their ill-gotten gains. Either way China is in for some “interesting times”.
Banks in China have been restricting all withdrawals for many months now. Ordinary depositors have lost their deposits and are totally broke.
This is not only very old news but applies to many many depositor’s and not only foreign billionaires.
Banks are failing all over China. The truth is that the bank where the funds were on deposit probably did not have the money to pay off the deposit.
Believe it or not, there are some Freepers who support and trust China.
Putin and Russia too has its own cheerleading section here too. After all Ronald Reagan did to defeat these semi-Mongolian a-holes. And if not much Mongolian blood. Then Mongolian informed, due to Mongol conquests of Russia way back. It is in the mentality of their ruthless, brain dead, robotic Russian leaders and Politburo. I believe the Politburo is gone, but in name only. Just call this the Russian-Soviet-Kremlin ruling clique.
Kudos to China. Too bad, Mobius.
They always eventually get around to seizing private property as with all socialist/communist regimes.
Just like Joe Biden, China first!
Being shielded from the painful consequences of their stupidity, our elites just keep making stupid choices.
Ever was it so, apparently
"When we Communists are ready to hang the capitalists, they’ll try to outbid each other for the sale of the hemp to us.”
- attributed to Vladimir Lenin
I don’t support or trust China.
That said, I can’t help but notice:
—They do not have a “perverts first” policy.
—They do not discriminate in education, employment etc against native Chinese in the name of “equity”.
—They ignore the climate cultists and produce the energy the country needs.
—They take their border seriously—no “migrants” getting special treatment or subsidies.
It's like property. You can't pick it up and take it with you so you sell it to someone else.
In this case, there's one payment in Yuan on the books and another payment in gold, gemstones, or cryptocurrency off the books.
No, they don’t discriminate against the majority Han population. They do, however, discriminate against racial minorities. That’s not any better.
They may not promote transgenderism for their own people, but they sure do promote it for Western youth via TikTok.
When investors can not take money out, they tend to respond in four ways. They stop putting money in, they start cutting losses, they take their investments elsewhere, and plan on not coming back for several years. If they get really angry, add in don’t get mad, get even. Long term this will hurt China and benefit all their competitors.
If stupidity got us into this mess, why cant it get us out?
Now Warren Buffet’s singing the blues with Jimmy. LOL.
RE: Kudos to China. Too bad, Mobius.
I get the impression that you think the Chinese government is doing the right thing. If so, can you explain why?
China today is a fascist country which uses both Soviet-style Communism and Corporatist Capitalism as tactical tools to manage social unrest and maintain the central government’s power.
Maybe Craig Barrett, CEO of Intel? I met him in Chengdu. He was looking for cheap professionals and kissing up to an auditorium of budding engineers. Not a smart move the way they steal IP.
This should not be a surprise to anyone doing business in the PRC. First, you have to know someone. Westerners have to set up their business with a connected Chinese partner. Then, you have to bribe a number of officials. And then your operations still are subject to local politics. Not so much national politics but keeping the local officials happy. And that was before the repatriation limits. It was lucrative to be in the market but it wasn’t free market. It was a bureaucratic / crony capitalism swamp.
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