Chip Roy: Trump ‘hangs out in his basement in Florida, afraid to actually debate’

“I was just at multiple events with [Florida Gov.] Ron DeSantis, where he’s shaking their hands and looking them in the eye, while Donald Trump hangs out in his basement in Florida, afraid to actually debate,” Roy said in an interview on CNN’s “The Source,

“If we’d gotten the policies in place, if he had worked with conservatives to get bills passed in 2018, ’19,” Roy said of Trump. “We wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in right now, where Joe Biden is leaving Texas fully exposed to have people running over our Border Patrol agents and our [Department of Public Safety].”

Roy was also pressed a couple of times about Trump’s recent controversial remarks that immigrants were “poisoning the blood” of America, and he said Republicans ought to be approaching the issue with more compassion.

People don't think Trump is going to be vindicated. They may hope, however faintly, that he may be vindicated.

But this is just hope.

And that is quite different from "thinking" he will be vindicated.

The fact is, and most intelligent people understand it, that we no longer live in a constitutional republic.

You are entitled to your opinion. The fact is, Trump is the only one who has shown a willingness and real propensity to deviate from Deep State orthodoxy.

None of the other candidates have demonstrated with action that they are anything more than talk, and there is every indication they will be more of the same.

And the fact that people I regard as Domestic Enemies of this Republic have criminally broken every law they felt they needed to from election law to constitutional law to immigration law in order to keep him from regaining the Office of The Presidency, and have done so with open impunity with HIM being the ONLY one to actually stand up to them and fight back (Ramaswamy's declaration about the Colorado ballot not withstanding) is why people back him.

Not because they are the same type of jackasses who had stars in their eyes over vermin like Obama, and blindly follow celebrities.

I support him because:

He moved the Embassy in Israel. Every single expert said the world would blow up if he did it. All the elites said the world would be engulfed in the fires of war. But he ignored them and just did it. As he said that he would.
He withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord. As he said that he would.
He forced a renegotiation of the Universal Postal Union (no minor thing, it made it nearly impossible to mail packages from the USA to China, but they could send the same package to the USA dirt cheap) This is just an example of how Trump stood up for Americans in his battles with the ChiCom regime. This is one example 99% of Americans don't know about. And there are many others.
He fought the Democrat Party and his OWN party to get ANY funding to put up a border wall, and had to settle for scraping money off the top because his own filthy party wouldn't even provide any assistance. Yet he still got that wall started carrying the barnacles of the entire federal government on his back that intentionally slowed him down.
There was a real commitment to controlling the border, an his leadership on this shows in the statistics. And he was fought every step of the way.
He brokered the Abraham Accords.
He kept us out of war.

These things are just a few examples of why people, disparaged as shallow celebrity fans, support Trump. It isn't because he is some kind of reality show celebrity who has orange skin, silly hair, is built like a refrigerator, and talks funny.

And yeah. He shoots from the hip. Says things he shouldn't. Can be vulgar and crass. Puts too much trust in people he hires to provide him with information he needs to make decisions as an outsider. The President before Trump was regarded (with help from every angle) as smooth, well-spoken, unvulgar, thoughtful, and hired people ideologically aligned with him.

And look at the level of hideous damage that smooth talking, political policy wonk has done to this country. Perhaps fatal. But he looked good to some, not like that uncouth slob Trump. So I look at that and utterly reject that in a candidate if that is all they have.

Donald Trump is supported by people because of the things I outlined above.

Because, at a fundamental level, like him or not, he is authentic. He is who he is, both good and bad. He isn't sticking his finger in the air to make decisions.

A very thoughtful response to what is obviously a contentious point.

I do disagree about Trump supporters impression of what is taking place in the courts. Unfortunately, we all are going to discover the true nature of this country’s character in the next year.
So many things to disrupt an election process are at work - the vulgarity and crudeness of Trump (and associates) behavior makes it impossible to have our side coalesce behind the man - this is what I see as very different from 2016.
You say people are intelligent, perhaps but they are not critical thinkers. Also, there are some in government now fighting the Deep State - Trump’s behavior is shutting them out of any part of the process to gain political power. Perhaps that is the intention.

My fear is when all civility breaks down (pushed by another fraudulent election if we can go that long) will we be able to ‘coalesce’ our efforts then? Or will we be left with the names people were called for supporting the wrong person? Help me to recall this happening inside either party prior to Trump entering the game.
I don’t want him to go prison (it is a sham); I want him to express ideas and name people that will help him get it done. I will vote for him if he is the candidate allowed to run - there are serious questions he should answer before getting that chance - looks like they will never be asked.
And many people are perfectly fine with that.

You wrote: "I do disagree about Trump supporters impression of what is taking place in the courts.
- Just curious. What about the "Trump supporters impression of what is taking place in the courts" exactly is wrong?
  
  That it is a sham? You yourself acknowledge this.
  
  That 1/6/2021 is freely and unreservedly classified by prosecutors (as an excuse for unconstitutional judicial behavior) an "insurrection"? If so, it is the most peaceful "insurrection" in this history of this country, as not only weren't there weapons, there weren't any torches and pitchforks, and the only ones using deadly force were the state and hidden players, those weapons ranging from walking sticks taken from protesters to beat them to death, to pipe bombs, in one of the most heavily surveilled places on earth, somehow not able to be linked to anyone who planted them?
  
  From J6 protesters who in the vast majority of cases, DID NOTHING but get doors opened and were ENCOURAGED to enter with the consent of the authorities, but are now in prison, with NO CHARGES for the majority of the time they spent there?
  
  That venues are being shopped, and trials frozen in these corrupt Leftist venues with corrupt political judges (AND JURIES) who have OPENLY made hostile statements that are prejudicial to the defendants (including Trump) in depriving them of their 1st and 4th Amendment rights?
  
  That players on the Left (and ostensibly the "Right") have committed deep crimes of seditious conspiracy to overthrow an elected President, and not a SINGLE one barring ONE stupid idiot named McGonigal who was KEY in the Trump Russia Collusion bullshit, tried to cash in with Russians and got caught? HE is the ONLY one, from a cast of dozens ranging from James Comey to this dumb ass McGonigal, and instead of getting 20 years or even Life for the evil he really did to our country, they got him on some completely stupid charge that got him four years, a slap on the hand. Are those the "impressions" that are wrong?
You wrote: "Also, there are some in government now fighting the Deep State - Trump’s behavior is shutting them out of any part of the process to gain political power."
- No disrespect intended, but just exactly who are you referring to? Any Democrats? No. Who on the Republican side is "fighting the Deep State"? Who, besides a small cadre of vocal politicians such as the likes of Rand Paul, Jim Jordan and a few others who are taking specific, localized stances against Deep State tyranny, even while they vote with the opposition to let it live on? Are there other people "fighting against the Deep State" I am missing? DeSantis doesn't count. He is a State Governor and has done absolutely NOTHING to battle the Deep State. He is tending (or SHOULD be tending) to internal state matters.
You wrote: "I want him to express ideas and name people that will help him get it done. I will vote for him if he is the candidate allowed to run - there are serious questions he should answer before getting that chance - looks like they will never be asked."
- What "serious questions" should be asked of him that he has not already demonstrated where he stands on them? Whether he "called for an insurrection" on J6? Whether he "mishandled" classified documents and revealed state secrets of some kind? Do you have an example of a "serious question" Trump should be asked that nobody is asking?

I get that you are offended by his pugnacious and often derisive way of interacting with those who oppose him, and want to go back to some other golden age standard that doesn't exist.

I wish it were otherwise, and a lot of people agree. But the ship has sailed, and you would be better served by finding a way to come to grips with that offense. I have not only been personally aware of politics since the days of Barry Goldwater (Gee, what respect was HE afforded, or nice things happened to him?) but have been studying the politics of the Left back to the 1930's, and can tell you (as Whittaker Chamber, Joseph McCarthy, Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan would have all attested, and that Trump and others can currently attest to) that the Golden Age of civil politics has not existed in our modern versions for going on a full century, not to mention how things were conducted before this "modern era" of American Politics.

Donald Trump is far, FAR more sinned against than sinned.

Again, I am glad we can have civil discourse on this, but I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Many of the fervent Trump supporters act as if this court thing will evaporate in time for elections (only from reading comments and some private discussion I have had). I am certain for the primary the oppression against Trump will help solidify his position as the candidate. My assertion is that I don’t see anyone considering if he is in prison how that impacts the electorate in a general election. That doesn’t touch election fraud.
My thoughts on the candidates; DeSantis is the only one I think can perform at a level Trump demonstrated his first two years in office. The others I don’t trust at all.

I believe Trump knew where to push on the corruption and when he started to the machine rolled over him. The Art of the Deal will not get him through that machine - he knew how to leverage American economic power and military power in the proper places and times. The fight at home was more intense than he expected and he hired poorly - even the replacements he hired were done poorly. The results speak for themselves. I do count DeSantis as one to reform the administrative state - to say he doesn’t count as governor is not a disqualifying status. DeSantis is one of the founding members of the Freedom Caucus. I think Josh Hawley, Chip Roy, and Rand Paul in that same vein. There is this also; April 2018, Trump described three caucus members – Meadows, Jim Jordan, and Ron DeSantis – as “absolute warriors” for their defense of him during the course of the Special Counsel investigation (Politico 5/23/2018)
His handling of COVID was an example of his unwillingness to stand against conventional wisdom or ultimate corruption of Big Pharma. He gave a medal to Fauci on his last day in office. Within one week of 1/06/21 there were over 1,000 arrest warrants that were made public. Either he was slow to recognize what was happening or he continues to trust the wrong people. There are a lot of questions to address about COVID - what would he do different? From interviews it sounds like nothing - strange for a germophobe. There are also the people he placed around him - that is where I found Kash Patel’s comments enlightening. Trump got used and abused by the professional political and administrative generation - would he have someone or someones to help him with that fight?
I am not offended by Trump’s behavior; my brother runs a construction company and he put it best - he talks like a construction worker from New York. I have no problem with that. It is the vehemently applied vitriol against people that determine someone else may be a better option - just play the name game on them and you win! Trump’s behavior toward people when he perceives he is being slighted I take as immature - he won’t address the differences. Fine, that is why we are now online trying to get the space to spell out the differences.
Finally, along the lines of Trump decision-making, unless it is a big thing or simple to define that action he won’t participate. Picking a running mate - today I hear they are considering Nikki Haley. How does that fit? I guess it won’t count since she is the vice-president - I think Mike Pence could have something to say about that.
Appreciate your response and sorry this is so long.

My assertion is that I don’t see anyone considering if he is in prison how that impacts the electorate in a general election. That doesn’t touch election fraud.

My thoughts on the candidates; DeSantis is the only one I think can perform at a level Trump demonstrated his first two years in office. The others I don’t trust at all.

I do count DeSantis as one to reform the administrative state - to say he doesn’t count as governor is not a disqualifying status. DeSantis is one of the founding members of the Freedom Caucus. I think Josh Hawley, Chip Roy, and Rand Paul in that same vein.

There is this also; April 2018, Trump described three caucus members – Meadows, Jim Jordan, and Ron DeSantis – as “absolute warriors” for their defense of him during the course of the Special Counsel investigation (Politico 5/23/2018)

His handling of COVID was an example of his unwillingness to stand against conventional wisdom or ultimate corruption of Big Pharma. He gave a medal to Fauci on his last day in office. Within one week of 1/06/21 there were over 1,000 arrest warrants that were made public. Either he was slow to recognize what was happening or he continues to trust the wrong people.

There are a lot of questions to address about COVID - what would he do different? From interviews it sounds like nothing - strange for a germophobe. There are also the people he placed around him - that is where I found Kash Patel’s comments enlightening. Trump got used and abused by the professional political and administrative generation - would he have someone or someones to help him with that fight?

I am not offended by Trump’s behavior; my brother runs a construction company and he put it best - he talks like a construction worker from New York. I have no problem with that. It is the vehemently applied vitriol against people that determine someone else may be a better option - just play the name game on them and you win! Trump’s behavior toward people when he perceives he is being slighted I take as immature - he won’t address the differences.

Fine, that is why we are now online trying to get the space to spell out the differences.

Finally, along the lines of Trump decision-making, unless it is a big thing or simple to define that action he won’t participate. Picking a running mate - today I hear they are considering Nikki Haley. How does that fit? I guess it won’t count since she is the vice-president - I think Mike Pence could have something to say about that.

Appreciate your response and sorry this is so long.

A very thoughtful response to what is obviously a contentious point.

I do disagree about Trump supporters impression of what is taking place in the courts. Unfortunately, we all are going to discover the true nature of this country’s character in the next year.

So many things to disrupt an election process are at work - the vulgarity and crudeness of Trump (and associates) behavior makes it impossible to have our side coalesce behind the man - this is what I see as very different from 2016.

You say people are intelligent, perhaps but they are not critical thinkers. Also, there are some in government now fighting the Deep State - Trump’s behavior is shutting them out of any part of the process to gain political power. Perhaps that is the intention.

I don’t want him to go prison (it is a sham); I want him to express ideas and name people that will help him get it done. I will vote for him if he is the candidate allowed to run - there are serious questions he should answer before getting that chance - looks like they will never be asked.

And many people are perfectly fine with that.

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