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Is Telegram a National Security Threat? ("A world of unimaginable filth and crime")
Newsweek ^ | April 2, 2024 | John Mac Ghlionn

Posted on 04/03/2024 5:54:24 PM PDT by canuck_conservative

The Russian-made app, according to a new report from Guardio, has, in recent times, evolved into a thriving center where experienced cybercriminals and beginners can openly share illegal tools and knowledgeβ€”a "scammers paradise." As a result, a dark and well-organized supply chain of tools and victims' data has emerged...

As the Guardio report clearly demonstrated, there is very little, if anything, secure about Telegram, contrary to popular reports.

The paradox lies in Telegram's emphasis on its security and privacy features, despite there being no automatic end-to-end encryption in place; instead, message protection relies on policies rather than technology. Such a security flaw poses a risk to your privacy, and the availability of malware for hire poses a threat to your device. This becomes even more glaring when considering that Google Messages and Facebook Messenger now offer default end-to-end encryption.

As Jeff Allen, co-founder and chief research officer for the Integrity Institute, a U.S think-tank, recently told the Financial Times, in addition to "broader integrity issues," people "should be worried about the criminal underworld" that exists on Telegram...

Telegram is, in many ways, the new "dark web." However, unlike the traditional dark web, which requires specialized browsers, Telegram is considerably easier to access. In truth, there are no barriers to entry. Simply download the app, and away you go. Enter a world of unimaginable filth and crime.

Users can use Telegram, now a mix of Reddit, Rumble, 4Chan, and Craigslist to buy just about anything, from abortion pills, Bolivian cocaine, and fraudulently cloned bank cards.

Telegram may be safe for organized criminals, but it's not safe for everyday Americans. TikTok is not the only dangerous app in existence. U.S. lawmakers would do well to remember this rather important fact...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: malware; phishing; spying; telegram; zeeperporn
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To: Fiji Hill
I had never heard of Telegram until 2021, but I’m now a regular user. Several local conservative and patriotic groups began using it to communicate following the crackdown on conservatives and the MAGA movement by the FBI and Big Tech following J6.

By preventing the NSA from intercepting and decrypting your communications you are participating in "a world of unimaginable filth and crime." 🀑

21 posted on 04/03/2024 7:31:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: tennmountainman

Lolz


22 posted on 04/03/2024 7:32:51 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: PGR88

You don’t remember Kapersky?

That Russian “anti-virus” software that was actually spyware??

Russian software has a deserved reputation as less-than-trustworthy, just sayin’...


23 posted on 04/03/2024 7:39:20 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Heh, never heard of it; just the Brit paper’s website.


24 posted on 04/03/2024 7:57:54 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: canuck_conservative

There’s is no proof of that, by the way.


25 posted on 04/03/2024 8:29:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Since you hate it, it must be awesome.

Going to get it now.


26 posted on 04/03/2024 9:07:10 PM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: canuck_conservative
The Russian Tik-Tok ... or worse ...

Not surprising. You always obediently take your orders from the Deep State, MSM, Trudeau, Biden administration, WEF, and EU.
27 posted on 04/03/2024 9:09:33 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: canuck_conservative

OMG! Opinions not sanction by the Biden Administration! Anathema to all Team Uniparty Uke Corruption Goons. Run for your life!


28 posted on 04/03/2024 9:52:29 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: canuck_conservative

Videos of the Russian Ukraine War are very graphic.


29 posted on 04/03/2024 10:38:51 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“TRANSLATION: Private communications that the NSA cannot intercept and decrypt is β€œprivacy.” Privacy is bad. Total surveillance is good.”

Yep, First Telegram then next up ALL encrypted messaging. Who knows what is being shared even here with private messaging features.


30 posted on 04/04/2024 3:08:56 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: CapandBall

“Unless you can create your own encryption, assume everything digital is compromised and all meta-data is collected.”

There are some true P2P end to end encrypted applications that do not go through a central server, they are directly personal box to personal box using a local desktop client and free.

But folks are too lazy to use them so they are dying away due to lack of participation at a time when they should be booming.


31 posted on 04/04/2024 3:27:18 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: canuck_conservative

You really need to EDUCATE yourself before believing this psyops crap.

“The paradox lies in Telegram’s emphasis on its security and privacy features, despite there being no automatic end-to-end encryption in place; instead, message protection relies on policies rather than technology. Such a security flaw poses a risk to your privacy, and the availability of malware for hire poses a threat to your device. This becomes even more glaring when considering that Google Messages and Facebook Messenger now offer default end-to-end encryption. “

Absolute Orwellian BS propaganda...

From Telegram:

“Telegram messages are heavily encrypted and can self-destruct.”

https://telegram.org/


32 posted on 04/04/2024 3:34:56 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: canuck_conservative

Anything from you, the hard commie at heart is to be disregarded. A coward to boot.


33 posted on 04/04/2024 6:09:50 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: canuck_conservative; FrankRizzo890; E. Pluribus Unum; PGR88

to be fair, the Russian government tried but failed to get control over Telegram.

Telegram was launched in 2013 by the brothers Nikolai and Pavel Durov. Previously, the pair founded the Russian social network VK, which they left in 2014, saying it had been taken over by the government. Pavel sold his remaining stake in VK and left Russia after resisting government pressure.

Telegram is registered as a company in the British Virgin Islands and an LLC in Dubai.

I’ve used it and tried to see how to secure it within a company’s security apparatus (and it failed so we block it within the company’s firewalls).

It is a secure service and imho it is not Russian owned.

However, as a secure service it also means no govt can hack in - not the Russians, not the Chinese, not any American agency.

This is good AND bad — there are a lot of murky dark stuff out there as the article points out - it IS there.

This is, as always a question of security v/s individual independence.


34 posted on 04/04/2024 6:22:55 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: canuck_conservative; All

Hi CC and all

Glanced through thread yesterday and this AM to get clarification.

Still fuzzy and perhaps someone can help.

Are we talking about The News/ site Telegram? I follow it daily for Amir Tsarfati, Jack Posobiec and Dr Malone. I take their articles daily to the Trump Family Thread. I like it’s format and have really not noted anything nefarious there.

Thanks for anyone who can shed light

Are there two sites?


35 posted on 04/04/2024 6:50:18 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is ~~. tell the storm how BIG your GOD is! )
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To: Cronos
This is good AND bad β€” there are a lot of murky dark stuff out there as the article points out - it IS there. This is, as always a question of security v/s individual independence.

So there was no "murky dark stuff out there" before the Interwebs?

Privacy is only a problem for crypto-fascists.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Ben Franklin

36 posted on 04/04/2024 7:03:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
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To: Bulwyf

If you cheer for Putin, then YOU’RE the a-hole


37 posted on 04/04/2024 8:23:28 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Let me know when you’re in the GP area. I can educate you then.


38 posted on 04/04/2024 8:39:36 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: tennmountainman

Funniest damn thing I have read.


39 posted on 04/04/2024 10:09:53 AM PDT by juan.gualt
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To: juan.gualt

What was your former screen name before you got zotted NEWBIE?


40 posted on 04/04/2024 10:29:30 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (β€œLess propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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