Posted on 04/08/2024 1:09:35 PM PDT by aquila48
This article is a list of their policies. I wish we did the same.
Item 6 of his speech pretty much summarizes their approach, but the whole thing is worth reading.
"6 To tackle ongoing and persistent issues, we adopt a multi-pronged approach. Legislation and enforcement are critical to help us tackle the "inconsiderate behaviour of a small number of people" who are not as socially responsible, and to shape social norms for the wider population."
What do you think?
I imagine caning helps with quite a number of infractions...
Dang, ya beat me to it.
They execute drug criminals and cane anybody else...............That usually keeps the crazies in line...............
“to shape social norms” — Nazi Germany did this, too. Trains ran on time, that’s the metaphor.
Do all the fines you want for messing up public space, and if neighborhoods make HOAs they all sign onto, well and good.
But “shape social norms” is a dead collectivist giveaway. It gives government too much power. It’s too steep a price to pay for clean. I saw the legendary clean subways in the 1987 Soviet Union — impressive, but at what cost in freedoms?
You can’t even chew gum in public there.
I wonder what the people who have to quit smoking are going to do...
“What do you think?”
Sounds like communism.
I am trying imagine placing onmy resume “Singaporean Public Toilets Task Force”
I wish we could cane people for graffiti.
““to shape social norms” — Nazi Germany did this, too. Trains ran on time, that’s the metaphor.”
What? You don’t think we do it? Every country does it through their laws, public education curriculum, and their media.
So it’s not a question of whether you do or you don’t, it’s about how you shape society to be. And it absolutely depresses me the way our laws and institutions are currently shaping our “social norms”. I would much prefer what Singapore is doing. What they are asking of people is common sense, something that I would feel quite comfortable living with. And I’m sure you would to. Do you spit or throw gum on the sidewalk, do you throw trash around? Do you do drugs and get drunk in public? I don’t know, maybe you do.
I saw no communism, but lots of capitalism, beautiful architecture, prosperity and happy people.
If you get a chance go there and let me know what you think after you’ve seen it with your own eyes.
It is the most capitalist state in the world.
There are some times I am ok with draconian punishment when the rules are clear. Do not deface someone else’ property or we will cane you. I cannot think of a way that an adult could run afoul of that law unintentionally.
I actually lived in Singapore in the 1990s for a brief time on work assignment
back in 1994, an American teenager (a spoiled rich brat with a corporate CEO parents living in Singapore) was caught vandalizing some cars
The government ordered him caned approx. 10 times
Typically arrogant democrats got Bill Clinton involved as a “human rights issue” and Singapore Gov’t, to give Clinton some “face,” reduced the sentence to about 4 canings, if memory serves.
Our other American friends were aghast that Clinton would be so stupid to get involved with such a petty case, on the side of a punk teenager vandal.
All the Americans I knew in Singapore wanted the kid caned according to Singapore Law. Having lived through Koch and Dinkens administrations in NY City, I knew the reasons Singapore was so clean and efficient.
Not to put too fine a point on it...
“What do you think?”
Caning for minor infractions will do the trick. Muslim countries will cut off your hand for stealing too. Vlad the Impaler did not have any stealing either. He would lay out gold in the roadside and dare anyone to steal it.
Yeah barbaric societies will do that sort of thing.
Putting Muslim hand-chopping and Vlad the Impaler next to Singapore is a faulty and silly argument. A totally ridiculous, straw-man fallacy
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“What do you think?”
I loved Singapore. I bet they don’t practice DEI either. I bet Singaporeans don’t cry “racism” every time a law demands responsibilities from the citizen.
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