Posted on 04/08/2024 1:09:35 PM PDT by aquila48
Lots of pushback on this thread against Singapore. But seriously, there is more freedom, security, cleanliness and safety there than in most US cities.
Corporal punishment runs throughout the culture. Parents cane their kids, teachers cane their students, a lot of kids who may be troubled and whose offenses involve mitigating circumstances, get caned .
I wouldn’t want to live in a culture like that.
“If you get a chance go there and let me know what you think after you’ve seen it with your own eyes.”
I’d love too.
“Lots of pushback on this thread against Singapore.”
Yep! Lot’s of ignoramuses in FR. Mostly from people who have never been there.
When were you there?
Don’t they arrest people for polluting and not disposing of trash properly?
They have an F1 race in Singapore each year and each year they have to get special clearance for the drivers for the visor tearaways as they would usually be jailed for tearing it away and throwing it on the street.
“I imagine caning helps with quite a number of infractions...”
Yes, it’s much more effective, cheaper with almost no recidivism.
Compare a bit of caning to the disaster we have here, where we arrest people for even major infractions, pay their lawyers (and ours), let them go, do the same thing the next day or week...and rinse and repeat. So our system allows the perps to do the beating of innocent people and worse.
And if you put them in jail, then the expenses get even higher.
A bit of corporal punishment is much more effective and cheaper. It doesn’t have to be torture, just painful and embarrassing enough to keep them from doing it again.
Singapore was always one of my very favorite travel stops. The key is the benevolent near dictatorship, process, no quarter is given for violation. Loved to stroll Orchard Street and go to the food court where you ordered from any number of establishments, paid in advance, gave no name, were given no number or any other identifier and yet your food always arrived at your table. Fascinating.
It is a fantastic tool and a very effective deterrent. Nobody dies, they just get a little beat up and the memories are left with them. We should do it here, frequently.
I stayed in Singapore for weeks at a time on business and never once found the standards of behavior or compliance offensive or a burden. If you behave with respect for others and decency you will have zero problems.
I loved the place for its order.
*All the Americans I knew in Singapore wanted the kid caned according to Singapore Law.* I remember that. Right around the time 2 Australian drug smugglers were executed in Malaysia. Some people don’t get it
As for not wanting to live under those conditions it’s Asia. In Japan 10 year old students had to wait outside in the snow to bow to the principal as he arrived-a sign of respect. They were made to do it without their coats on.
I wouldn’t want to live in Singapore. Too hot.
Freedom does not include disrespect for others, decency, personal responsibility, accountability for offensive actions to others and so forth. Freedom is not anarchy. Most people seem to think that is exactly what it is. Just do what you want to do when you want to do it.
It works very well and just about everybody is better off because of it.
I wish we would cane people for littering and a few other things.
Information about it has been all over the place for decades.
(I don’t have to go to North Korea or to any state with Sharia Law, to know that I don’t want to live in those cultures, either.)
I was working there at the time. He defaced a Honda. Do you know what it takes to have a car in Singapore? If did and had to pay for it you would want more than caning. I wanted them to just beat the little punk to death and be done with it.
“I stayed in Singapore for weeks at a time on business and never once found the standards of behavior or compliance offensive or a burden. If you behave with respect for others and decency you will have zero problems.”
Exactamundo. People that only read about it, they think that it’s repressive. I saw nor felt any such thing. They just promote behavior that any normal civic minded person would do on their own. I’m sure all freepers would fit that description.
As the guy says...
it’s the “inconsiderate behaviour of a small number of people” who are not as socially responsible,”... that they go after.
Way too fanatically obsessive and fastidious.
Take a little vacation there. I think you’ll like it.
I don’t know if it is still so, but in 82 and 85 the place was absolutely spotless...everywhere.
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