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The Clinton legacy: > 5,000 victims and $ 40 billion loss
FR posts | > 9/11/01 | RobertJames:editor

Posted on 09/16/2001 7:09:57 PM PDT by RobertJames

 

William J. Clinton, an accessory and enabler of the 9/11 terrorist attacks,

while US president for 8 years, .....

 



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1 posted on 09/16/2001 7:09:57 PM PDT by RobertJames
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To: RobertJames
Bump!
2 posted on 09/16/2001 7:14:10 PM PDT by MizSterious
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To: RobertJames
America was caught with its pants down because Clinton was in the Oval Office with HIS pants down.
3 posted on 09/16/2001 7:14:53 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: RobertJames
Clinton may not have been the best president ever, but he was not responsible for what happened. He couldn't have gone to war after the African bombings or the Cole because there wasn't enought public outrage and foreign support.
4 posted on 09/16/2001 7:17:23 PM PDT by tenderstone jr.
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To: Lexington Green
Too important to ignore. Bump!
5 posted on 09/16/2001 7:18:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: tenderstone jr.
He couldn't have gone to war after the African bombings or the Cole because there wasn't enough public outrage and foreign support.

He didn't have public outrage or foreign support when he bombed Yugoslavia, but he did it anyway, all the while crying crocodile tears about teenagers being shot in Columbine H.S. -- how many teenage deaths was he responsible for?

I think the public outrage is coming as more truth surfaces. It's long overdue.

6 posted on 09/16/2001 7:20:19 PM PDT by pray4liberty
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To: tenderstone jr.
Clinton, has done more to compromise the security of this country than anyone. It was all done for self-serving reasons. Either for money or political gain.

He should be facing treason charges.

7 posted on 09/16/2001 7:21:46 PM PDT by Vicki
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To: tenderstone jr.
RE: # 4:

So, unless there is a direct connection that every simpleton can understand, such as a direct order or request from Krintong to bin Laden to bomb WTC, you are saying there is no connection and there are no consequences to the actiona and decisions listed above, correct?

8 posted on 09/16/2001 7:23:53 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: RobertJames
Bump!! ....very good job.

And to all those "It's our fault" Liberals out there saying the Muslims have a right to be mad at the U.S.

We conservatives have been Mad too at their boy Klintoon for the last 8 years of his TREASONOUS behavior!

9 posted on 09/16/2001 7:24:03 PM PDT by HoustonKevin (God Bless America!)
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To: tenderstone jr.
"He couldn't have gone to war after the African bombings or the Cole because there wasn't enought public outrage and foreign support."

TRANSLATION:

His poll numbers are not good on that issue.
10 posted on 09/16/2001 7:27:29 PM PDT by lormand
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To: tenderstone jr.
"Clinton may not have been the best president ever, but he was not responsible for what happened. He couldn't have gone to war after the African bombings or the Cole because there wasn't enought public outrage and foreign support."

Since I don't know you and prefer to give you the benefit of a doubt............and assuming that you meant no harm with this reply............I'll give you ample time to think about what your wrote and possibly amend it before I totally and completely rip it apart, limb from limb.

11 posted on 09/16/2001 7:29:21 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Lexington Green
Touche` !!!
12 posted on 09/16/2001 7:33:23 PM PDT by moonman
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To: tenderstone jr.
Wrong!

The Clintons' co-presidency (remember we got Hillary to "run" the Justice Department) was a tragic time for this nation. The CIA and FBI were totaly decimated, corrupted, and politicized.

I blame the Clintons for facilitating this horror.

14 posted on 09/16/2001 7:37:02 PM PDT by TheGoodDoc
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To: tenderstone jr.
He couldn't have gone to war after the African bombings or the Cole because there wasn't enought public outrage and foreign support.

You're missing the point, if he hadn't gutted the military/intelligence communities, those bombings (and maybe the WTC) could have easily been prevented.

Since when does the US need 'foreign support' to defend our embassies or ships...? If we do were in bigger trouble than I thought.

Too bad Monica didn't give her senate testimony right after the Cole bombing, Clinton would have knocked the crap out bin laden then!

15 posted on 09/16/2001 7:39:59 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: Marianne, HalfIrish, victimsoul, GottliebBerger ,ProudFossil ,Diogenez,Prism
Bump
16 posted on 09/16/2001 7:41:17 PM PDT by RobertJames
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To: pray4liberty
There was no widespread outrage over the Cole because, in effect, clinton ignored it, with the aid and assistance of his lickspittles in the media.
17 posted on 09/16/2001 7:41:17 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: victimsoul,time4good ,newsperson999 ,Axion ,TonyInOhio ,anniegetyourgun
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18 posted on 09/16/2001 7:43:31 PM PDT by RobertJames
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To: RobertJames
Enough oil can be "confiscated" from Iraq, Mideast nations to pay for all his 5 to 10 times over. Make sure it is. "All your oil our belong to us now."
19 posted on 09/16/2001 7:43:54 PM PDT by Waco
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To: NativeNewYorker,Pokey78,Semper ,RedBloodedAmerican ,woofie ,Cinnamon Girl ,mlmr
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20 posted on 09/16/2001 7:44:56 PM PDT by RobertJames
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To: t-shirt ,The Wizard ,freeplancer ,Recovering_Democrat,Howlin,Demosthenes,Uncle Bill ,truther ,vooch
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21 posted on 09/16/2001 7:46:37 PM PDT by RobertJames
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To: beebop
I think there is a certain physics to politics. For every action, there is an equal reaction. Klinton is on a constant world wide attempt to build a legacy, interfere with domestic political policy, etc. The Freepers here who are ripping him are the equal reaction to his actions.

God bless you Freepers!

22 posted on 09/16/2001 7:47:26 PM PDT by lormand
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To: , MeeknMing ,kattracks , Diogenesis ,smorgle ,TLBSHOW,hawaiian ,WeMustContinueTheFight,mgist
bump
23 posted on 09/16/2001 7:48:36 PM PDT by RobertJames
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To: BubbaZanetti ,aculeus ,Matchett-PI ,Alamo-Girl
bump
24 posted on 09/16/2001 7:49:25 PM PDT by RobertJames
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To: Waco
I hope that happens, because the Saudi's have some serious explaining here. The spoils of war will effect them in some way. I say we rename Saudi Arabia to Exxon or something.
25 posted on 09/16/2001 7:50:04 PM PDT by lormand
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To: RobertJames
36. Corrupted the INS and allowed tens of thousands of immigrants into the country with sketchy or no background checks - packed Democrat voter rolls with many, many of them, who were happy to vote Democrat in return for getting into the US...several thousand of those who came were later found to have criminal or other histories which would have precluded their getting here if properly screened...how many incipient terrorists were in this group, and how do we track them now?...
26 posted on 09/16/2001 7:53:17 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: beebop
I agree with the jist of your post (although not for exactly the same reasons).

This is neither the time nor the place to be bashing past presidents nor past policies.

The world has completely changed and there is a clear mission before us.
When the smoke clears.....and we are at peace again....
then can then assess blame so that events like this are never repeated.

27 posted on 09/16/2001 7:54:46 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: RobertJames
Nice post. Bookmarked.
28 posted on 09/16/2001 7:54:59 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: tenderstone jr.
Wait, my friend, I thought Clinton had such charisma, charm, and persuasive powers that he could make this country do anything? If he wanted to whip this nation into a frenzy of patriotism he could have. The point is he didn't want to he didn't want to do anything to rock the boat.
29 posted on 09/16/2001 7:55:11 PM PDT by In mourning for six years
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To: TheGoodDoc
Put on yur tinfoil hats cuz here's my new theory.

I heard today that some demonut congressman was poo pooing the release that Airforce One was targeted during the 9/11 attack. In fact it was, and they say there must be a spy in the whitehouse who gave out the codes for airforce one so the terrorists could track it. DOES ANY FREEPER HAVE ANY IDEA WHO IT COULD HAVE BEEN?

I thought Clinton looked awfully subdued & nervous the other morning in NY. At first I thought it was guilt...but that's not in character for him. If he turns up dead within the year I will know why. He knows too much (Daddy's involvement in JFK's demise/Mena/?) for Bush to out him... a failed coup generally means death to the conspirators.

Whuttsup Al? You and Bill getting along famously again I see.

30 posted on 09/16/2001 7:55:21 PM PDT by armourup
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To: RobertJames
Im all for your post..I think it will help set the record straight when the revisionists arrive
31 posted on 09/16/2001 7:56:56 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Waco
Enough oil can be "confiscated" from Iraq, Mideast nations to pay for all his 5 to 10 times over. Make sure it is. "All your oil our belong to us now."

Agreed. The best way to fight this in the long term is to chip away at their wealth.

Everytime a terroist act is traced back to the mid-east, we take a pre-determined amount of land and oilfields. The money produced from those conquests now goes into OUR pockets to rebuild any parts of the US that have been harmed.

Or even better, 'Kelly's Heroes' type raids on the Bank of Iraq or the United Emirates treasury, etc. Don't kill anyone, just take their money, their gold and their oil.

32 posted on 09/16/2001 7:57:30 PM PDT by JPJones
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To: tenderstone jr.
Clinton may not have been the best president ever,

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What? Don't sugar coat it. He was by far THE WORST president ever. He is a criminal and a rapist who sold or gave away our nuclear crown jewels.

33 posted on 09/16/2001 8:00:19 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: RobertJames
None and I mean NONE of the things you listed take ANY responsibility away from the evil terrorists who attacked America....NONE. Get lost. Clinton may be many things but he did not crash a plane into the World Trade Center or Pentagon. Go put your rag back on and get back in your cave.
34 posted on 09/16/2001 8:03:56 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: RobertJames
Excellent!
35 posted on 09/16/2001 8:05:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: armourup
In fact it was, and they say there must be a spy in the whitehouse who gave out the codes for airforce one so the terrorists could track it. DOES ANY FREEPER HAVE ANY IDEA WHO IT COULD HAVE BEEN?

Get real. Do you really think that all of the presidents have the same "codes" or whatever? Use your common sense.

36 posted on 09/16/2001 8:07:32 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: RobertJames
I would not be surprised if he were not the mastermind. I always thought his sole aim was the destruction of the country and much of his behavior since leaving office seems to prove it.
37 posted on 09/16/2001 8:10:06 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: eddie willers
This is neither the time nor the place to be bashing past presidents nor past policies.

Ditto that. I'm getting really mad about these terrorist/Iraqi 'sympathy...America and American politics are to blame for this attack types of posts.

38 posted on 09/16/2001 8:14:13 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Born in a Rage
Your probably right but Bush remodeled the Whitehouse before he moved in which I am totally convinced was to check for bugs and probes either left by Clintonistas or infiltrated secondary to his incompetence.
39 posted on 09/16/2001 8:15:53 PM PDT by armourup
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To: RobertJames
I see the apologists and the simpletons are out in full force tonight. Anyone who attempts to connect the dots is "obsessed" with x42. Oh yes, next we're going to hear that he personally created 11 million jobs and that the President "runs the country". Oops, my bad, no that would imply that x42 might have had something to do with 9/11. The "runs the country" bit only applies to the economy!

Note also that the simpletons will not dispute any of the evidence you present.

40 posted on 09/16/2001 8:17:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: tenderstone jr.
Leadership doesn't depend on public outrage. The media has been manipulating the public for so long, UNTILL NOW. The Cole and Somalia DEMANDED action. He chose another kind of action.
41 posted on 09/16/2001 8:19:13 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: eddie willers
"This is neither the time nor the place to be bashing past presidents nor past policies.... When the smoke clears.....and we are at peace again.... then can then assess blame so that events like this are never repeated."

Suppose I had a cousin living with me. And my cousin starts unlocking all my doors and windows. He deactivates my alarm system. He starts hanging out with friends of people who have publicly stated that they intend to kill me. He takes money out of my dresser drawer and funnels it back to the same people. He prevents me from talking to anyone who would know the exact plans that my enemies are laying out for me. He takes all of my ammo for my guns. He leaves the house.

Soon, my enemies come over to my house and shoot my windows, and yell that they're going to come back later and shoot me. My cousin shows up and starts saying, "Here's what you ought to do...."

You're saying that not only should I allow my cousin to remain in my house ("For the sake of the family"), but that I should completely ignore his role in the attack on my house?

Ludicrous.

42 posted on 09/16/2001 8:43:42 PM PDT by toenail
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To: toenail
No....its more like through carelessness or even (God forbid) by design, he has allowed your house to catch fire and you want to stand there yelling at him RATHER THAN PUT THE DAMN FIRE OUT!

Focus, man, focus.

43 posted on 09/16/2001 10:00:56 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: doug from upland
What? Don't sugar coat it. He was by far THE WORST president ever. He is a criminal and a rapist who sold or gave away our nuclear crown jewels.

By what objective standards is Clinton the worst president ever? What are the facts (not accusations) to support that statement?

How is Clinton a criminal? What specific crimes did he commit? Where is the damning evidence? How come Clinton was never charged as a criminal? He was investigated more than any man in history, so if he committed some crimes, they have to be a matter of record by now. So where are the indictments?

Unjustly accusing someone of something bad is easy, though evil, to do. Satan stands by the throne and lies about each one of us to Abba every day. Accusation is meaningless meanness unless there is also proof of guilt. So where is the evidence, the indictments, the complaints, the charges of crime against Clinton?

If there are no indictments, no charges, no evidence, then there are no crimes. Which makes calling Clinton a criminal a slanderous, evil thing to do.

As to rape, I studied the case and listened to Juanita's tearful testimony. Then I got down my Bible and sought the Lord's opinion. He told me that under these circumstances, no rape occured. Which meant that Clinton wasn't a rapist and should never be called one.

I don't know what "crown jewels of our nuclear arsenal" means, but it doesn't matter, because Clinton neither sold nor gave away any nuclear secrets. One of the many things he was investigated for was being in on an illegal and unethical deal to transfer missle technology to China through Loral, but once it was looked iunto, that charge evaporated. Went poof! There was nothing to it.

However, it is true that the president allowed top-secret U.S. missle technology fall into Chinese hands. But it was a different president; one named Bush.

Other than that, I agree with everything you said.

44 posted on 09/16/2001 11:21:33 PM PDT by Hidy
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To: Hidy
This is amazing. I really never have paid attention to you even though I just discovered you've been here since 1998. 1998! I don't know anyone who has been here that long whom I have so totally ignored. Congratulations. How could someone be here so long who never had anything worthwhile to say? I just looked at a couple of your other posts and, not surprisingly, have determined you do not deserve a serious response. The essence of Clinton is dripping off your chin. Go mentally pleasure yourself in the sink.

Even though you have no value on this forum, I still hope that Bill Clinton never does to your or your daughter what he did to Juanita. Even you don't deserve it.

45 posted on 09/16/2001 11:39:23 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: RobertJames
Look, Krinton was far too busy getting the chug nuts licked out of his arsehole by Monica Lewinsky to attend to the national security of the United States. Give the guy a break, already.
46 posted on 09/16/2001 11:45:02 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: RobertJames
Thanks for the ping - good stuff!
47 posted on 09/17/2001 5:37:39 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: tenderstone jr.
Welcome to FR this month. It's okay to admit that your two votes for the lying male slut who was the last president, were just plain misguided and wrong.
48 posted on 09/17/2001 5:40:01 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: RobertJames
Thanks for the flag - excellent post. Sorry for the crosstalk but I don't get eddie's either/or stance when it's necessary to put out the fire and deal with the perp at the same time. I'd get it if the Pantload had just been an inept president; we'd do better to show solidarity and save criticism for later. The reality is, he was and remains a traitor.

Now is the time to expose what he's done (and the Pantsuit with him), now when Americans are grieving, smarting with anger, full of resolve and asking 'How did this happen?' Now is when people are most willing to look at what led to this catastrophe and demand justice at home, too.

The media calling Tuesday 9/11 "Attack on America" are only partly right. It is the most recent, the most visible attack, but your list shows that it's only the latest in a long string of attacks on America, many hidden and orchestrated from the White House.

To extend the burning house analogy, we must deal with the perpetrator as part of putting out the fire. We need to expose him, his accomplices, and their actions before the next fuses are lit. People need to know that a full inquiry into the last presidency must be made so that we can assess the damage and dangers before we rely on systems and structures that have been compromised.

Case in point: Watching C-Span this morning, I saw part of a hearing where the president of the American Steel Workers was explaining that American steel is being ruined by foreign imports encouraged by the gov't. for the past 5 years. The U.S. now imports more steel than it produces, which not only is wrecking steel workers but also diminishing our capacity to manufacture steel. Worse, this makes us dependent on foreign suppliers, which is a national security issue, especially now as we are preparing for war.

We just don't have the luxury of doing one thing at a time. Kinda like stopping one hijacked flight when others are still in the air--ya know?

Anyway, thanks again, and I hope this runs to Thread 2.

49 posted on 09/17/2001 3:07:42 PM PDT by smorgle
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To: RobertJames
Bookmarked.
50 posted on 09/19/2001 8:08:45 PM PDT by Marianne
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