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Can A Nuke Really Fit Into A Suitcase?
Time | October 29, 2001 | Bill Saporito

Posted on 10/22/2001 6:20:06 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

Could the next chapter of our national nightmare be a nuclear one? How hard would it be for operatives of Osama bin Laden to deliver a "suitcase nuke" to our doorstep?

The technical answer is that the threat is still considered to be remote; there is no hard evidence that any terrorist group, including bin Laden's, has a finished nuclear weapon in its arsenal. But not long ago, anthrax seemed a distant threat. And it is possible for the bad guys to assemble an atom bomb with contraband uranium and off-the-shelf parts. "It's not particularly probable, but it's possible,'" says Anthony Cordesman, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "The difficulty is that we are dealing with a wide range of low-probability cases. We can't be afraid of any one, but we have to be concerned about all of them." Among those probabilities: "dirty" conventional bombs loaded with radioactive garbage and attacks on nuclear plants that cause massive radiation leaks.

For years, cloak-and-dagger stories have circulated that Soviet suitcase nukes (also known as atomic demolition munitions, or ADMs) had gone unaccounted for and presumably ended up on the Russian black market. The Russians have offered confusing and conflicting statements about the disposition of their ADMs, leading some to suspect the worst. The ADMs weigh from 60 lbs. to 100 lbs., according to Bruce Blair, a former U.S. Air Force officer and expert on Soviet nuclear weapons. They could be carried in a case 8 in. by 16 in. by 24 in. The fissile material inside the mini-nukes degrades over time, though, and it's unlikely that the Russians maintained them or that their new owners could. "There's no good evidence that any rebel group or terrorist has these," says John Lepingwell, a nuclear expert with the Monterey Institute of International Studies.

If terrorists can't buy portable nukes, they would have to make them. And in a frightening study done by the Nuclear Control Institute, a nonproliferation group in Washington, a panel of nuclear-explosives experts concluded that a group of dedicated terrorists without nuclear backgrounds could assemble a bomb if it had the right materials (such as plutonium 239, uranium 235, plutonium oxide and uranium oxide). It would take about a year to complete the job. "There's little question that the only remaining obstacle is the acquisition of the material," says Paul Leventhal, the institute's president. Less than 110 kg of active ingredients could yield 10 kilotons of explosive power--a Hiroshima-size weapon. Even if the terrorists didn't get the recipe quite right, a 1-kiloton yield could still devastate a city. And forget the suitcase: a truck will do, or a container ship to float the bomb into an American port.

Where would bin Laden get the material? Again, the most common answer is Russia, with its reputation as a fissile flea market. And a bin Laden associate has told authorities that the mastermind is shopping for nuclear ingredients. Adds Leventhal: "My feeling is that the prudent assumption is that bin Laden is nuclear capable in some fashion." Other experts are less certain that any terrorist group could pull off a nuke. A 1999 Rand study on terrorism noted somewhat reassuringly that "building a nuclear device capable of producing mass destruction presents Herculean challenges for terrorists and indeed even for states with well-funded and sophisticated programs."

Which is why the greater danger may lie in dirty bombs, conventional weapons used to spray radioactive material--anything from used reactor rods to contaminated clothing--over wide areas. Although the death toll wouldn't be great, the contamination and the public panic could be widespread. "The ultimate dirty bomb is a nuclear power reactor," says NCI's Leventhal. That someone will run a jet into a cooling tower isn't the only risk. Periodically the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has staged mock attacks against facilities, and the faux intruders won half the time--meaning they were in a position to cause severe damage. It's a target-rich environment: not only is the core vulnerable, but one NRC study also concluded that if terrorists blew up the cooling pool that holds the spent fuel, the radiation could kill 6% of the people living within 10 miles of the plant.

with reporting by Mark Thompson/Washington


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1 posted on 10/22/2001 6:20:06 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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These guys don't impress me as the rocket science type. I'm guessing low probability of nuclear attack.
2 posted on 10/22/2001 6:38:02 AM PDT by mrgolden
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To: Stand Watch Listen
They could be carried in a case 8 in. by 16 in. by 24 in.

This is one of those things we should not lose sleep over. A truck or shipboard container, possibly.

Critical Mass is a non-negotiable figure, as are the well-known public details of implosion device assembly.

Just try to carry such a "briefcase".

Nope, I am going to worry about more immediate things.

Besides, our "No First Use" doctrine would be totally out the window if someone were to do this, and it would give us a blank check to do whatever we wanted. *WE* are not the ones who should be losing sleep over this.

We have one warhead for each WTC victim. Fact.

To use one, or even fifty against us would be the same thing as taking a knife to a gunfight.

3 posted on 10/22/2001 6:40:42 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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We have tactical nuclear warhead that fit inside the size envelope of an artillery shell. I suppose there are suitcases that would fit around such a shell.
4 posted on 10/22/2001 6:49:00 AM PDT by Fixit
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I think the critical mass of a nuke is somewhere around 80-90 lbs. Then add in the weight of the bomb itself. So how could the suitcase weigh 60 lbs?

Also..... Later in the above article they say they need 110kg (220 lbs) of material - confusing the reader by mixing english/metric units.

5 posted on 10/22/2001 6:53:08 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: mrgolden
"These guys don't impress me as the rocket science type. I'm guessing low probability of nuclear attack."

You would guess wrong.

It is not a matter of IF, it is a matter of WHEN.

I would be very, very surprised if Bin Laden or some other group did not already have a weapon or the materials to make it.

I would not be surprised if one or more cells in place in the U.S. had one.

It does not need to be in a "suitcase". It could be rolled into town in a Ryder van. It could float into a port onboard a freighter.

And, BTW, I am a rocket scientist!

--Boris

6 posted on 10/22/2001 6:56:16 AM PDT by boris
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Smallpox and nuclear-suitcase reports are the worst types of fear-mongering by America's big-media.

In both cases, there has not been any credible information released that shows an attack of this type imminent or even possible by the terrorist organizations that wish to harm us.

Spreading fear on false threats is not the only horrible tactic of big-media. They are also down-playing real threats toward the United States and trying to undercut all preparations for such a threat. The most striking exampleof this is a National Missile Defense System against the growing threat of missile attack from China or North Korea. China and North Korea have been sending strong signals in recent years of their intention to challenge America's military. A couple of the most striking examples was North Korea's missile test in the Pacific and China's threat to nuke Los Angeles in any conflict over Taiwan. These threats are real and are backed-up an incresingly threating military and hard-line attitude toward the United States.

Big-Media's response has been that the system is too expensive, won't work, and would upset other countries.

It would certainly be more expensive to lose Los Angeles or even the entire West Coast. Regardless of the effectiveness of the NMD system, it would be at least as effective as not building any system at all. As for upsetting other countries, I have no doubt that making America stronger would upset our enemies.......who cares!!!?

In conclusion, I rate America's Big-Media coverage of the national security threats against America as a D-. It's really a shame their reporting is so out-of-step with reality.

7 posted on 10/22/2001 6:58:22 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Oh no not this again.
8 posted on 10/22/2001 7:00:29 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: mrgolden
"They may not be the Rocket science type". Yeah but does that increase or decrease our chances of being nuked, I'm afraid of the answer.
10 posted on 10/22/2001 7:05:28 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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If my wife can fit all her clothes into one suitcase, I'd have to say "Yes."

DISCLAIMER: cheap joke based on a stereotype which DOES NOT apply to my wife -- who is a more judicious packer than I!

Dan

11 posted on 10/22/2001 7:06:01 AM PDT by BibChr
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To: Stand Watch Listen; Gorzaloon
Although it is unlikely that terrorists could build a good device on their own, and that we would of course retaliate in kind,

1- They have the money. You can buy anything if you have the money. You don't have to have skill.

2- They may not care about massive retaliation. They may even hope to provoke it. They don't think like we do.

Well I am not going to lose much sleep over it but I did get myself a CD survey meter and some potassium iodate. Just in case.

16 posted on 10/22/2001 7:16:18 AM PDT by Sender
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18 posted on 10/22/2001 7:21:34 AM PDT by LiberteeBell
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To: The Raven
One critical mass of plutonium is only about 10.5 kilos I believe. So they wouldn't need much more than that. But even if they only have a handful of highly radioactive dust taped to a stick of dynamite it's going to cause a mess much bigger than the anthrax scare.
19 posted on 10/22/2001 7:22:00 AM PDT by Sender
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The nuclear weapons include suitcase bombs acquired through Chechniyan rebels and received technical help from Iraq. ‘The Russians believe that he has a handful [of nuclear weapons], the Saudi intelligence services are very conservative, perhaps they are friendly to the United States, believe that he has in the neighborhood of 20,’

I fail to understand, then, why these rebels did not use them against the FSU. It would have been easy.

Also, what is the shelf-life of low-shielded compact devices?

Thermal degradation of the implosion charge (These things are *warm* to handle), as well as y and N degradation imposes a "Best if used before...." date on them.

20 posted on 10/22/2001 7:30:09 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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