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1 posted on 10/22/2001 6:20:06 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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These guys don't impress me as the rocket science type. I'm guessing low probability of nuclear attack.
2 posted on 10/22/2001 6:38:02 AM PDT by mrgolden
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They could be carried in a case 8 in. by 16 in. by 24 in.

This is one of those things we should not lose sleep over. A truck or shipboard container, possibly.

Critical Mass is a non-negotiable figure, as are the well-known public details of implosion device assembly.

Just try to carry such a "briefcase".

Nope, I am going to worry about more immediate things.

Besides, our "No First Use" doctrine would be totally out the window if someone were to do this, and it would give us a blank check to do whatever we wanted. *WE* are not the ones who should be losing sleep over this.

We have one warhead for each WTC victim. Fact.

To use one, or even fifty against us would be the same thing as taking a knife to a gunfight.

3 posted on 10/22/2001 6:40:42 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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We have tactical nuclear warhead that fit inside the size envelope of an artillery shell. I suppose there are suitcases that would fit around such a shell.
4 posted on 10/22/2001 6:49:00 AM PDT by Fixit
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I think the critical mass of a nuke is somewhere around 80-90 lbs. Then add in the weight of the bomb itself. So how could the suitcase weigh 60 lbs?

Also..... Later in the above article they say they need 110kg (220 lbs) of material - confusing the reader by mixing english/metric units.

5 posted on 10/22/2001 6:53:08 AM PDT by The Raven
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Smallpox and nuclear-suitcase reports are the worst types of fear-mongering by America's big-media.

In both cases, there has not been any credible information released that shows an attack of this type imminent or even possible by the terrorist organizations that wish to harm us.

Spreading fear on false threats is not the only horrible tactic of big-media. They are also down-playing real threats toward the United States and trying to undercut all preparations for such a threat. The most striking exampleof this is a National Missile Defense System against the growing threat of missile attack from China or North Korea. China and North Korea have been sending strong signals in recent years of their intention to challenge America's military. A couple of the most striking examples was North Korea's missile test in the Pacific and China's threat to nuke Los Angeles in any conflict over Taiwan. These threats are real and are backed-up an incresingly threating military and hard-line attitude toward the United States.

Big-Media's response has been that the system is too expensive, won't work, and would upset other countries.

It would certainly be more expensive to lose Los Angeles or even the entire West Coast. Regardless of the effectiveness of the NMD system, it would be at least as effective as not building any system at all. As for upsetting other countries, I have no doubt that making America stronger would upset our enemies.......who cares!!!?

In conclusion, I rate America's Big-Media coverage of the national security threats against America as a D-. It's really a shame their reporting is so out-of-step with reality.

7 posted on 10/22/2001 6:58:22 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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Oh no not this again.
8 posted on 10/22/2001 7:00:29 AM PDT by boomop1
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If my wife can fit all her clothes into one suitcase, I'd have to say "Yes."

DISCLAIMER: cheap joke based on a stereotype which DOES NOT apply to my wife -- who is a more judicious packer than I!

Dan

11 posted on 10/22/2001 7:06:01 AM PDT by BibChr
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Although it is unlikely that terrorists could build a good device on their own, and that we would of course retaliate in kind,

1- They have the money. You can buy anything if you have the money. You don't have to have skill.

2- They may not care about massive retaliation. They may even hope to provoke it. They don't think like we do.

Well I am not going to lose much sleep over it but I did get myself a CD survey meter and some potassium iodate. Just in case.

16 posted on 10/22/2001 7:16:18 AM PDT by Sender
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You can pack a lot of junk radioactive material (i.e., cast-offs from power plants). And a plain old shrapnel-maker in the center, and you've got a contaminated area blocks wide.
21 posted on 10/22/2001 7:31:11 AM PDT by lds23
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A much better question is, "will a Nuke fit into a burnoose?"
22 posted on 10/22/2001 7:39:20 AM PDT by higgmeister
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Of course, I say we should try to put one down the back of every burnoose in the mid-east!
23 posted on 10/22/2001 7:41:41 AM PDT by higgmeister
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I dunno from suitcases and nukes, but here's another blast from the past.

" 02 October 2000

Secretary of Defense Cohen (remember him?) Cites Russia, China, Weapons of Mass Destruction as Top Foreign Policy and Defense Challenges Link to discussion of terrorism

Addressing an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) October 2, Defense Secretary Cohen: "With regard to weapons of mass destruction, we are now seeing at least 20, 24 countries let's call it two dozen countries who either have developed or are in the process of developing weapons of mass destruction. That's a word that doesn't mean a lot, I suppose, to most people who hear it.

And that's the reason why, when I went on television a couple of years ago, I held up that five-pound bag of sugar, because it loses its meaning when you use that phraseology.

If you take a five-pound bag of sugar and you say, assuming this were filled with, let's say, anthrax instead of sugar and you spread that with the right kind of temperatures and right kind of wind over a city the size of Washington DC, you could wipe out almost 70 percent of the population just with five pounds.

There are tons of anthrax in existence. There are tons that have been manufactured. And so this is just one element that we have to contend with for the future. How do we gain control over these weapons of mass destruction, which are proliferating and will continue to proliferate?" (Then Poet Cohen just had to lapse into girlie-man gobbledeegook )"If you recall the words of the poet Auden, he talked about a "man clutching a little case who walks out briskly to infect a city whose terrible future may have just arrived."

25 posted on 10/22/2001 7:48:09 AM PDT by YaYa123
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My wife can pack the entire house inside one suitecase. I don't think one nuke presents too much of a challenge.
27 posted on 10/22/2001 7:51:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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A "dirty bomb", also known as a radiological bomb, is not at all difficult to put together. All that is needed is some highly radioactive isotope of uranium, plutonium or cesium (possibly spent nuclear fuel) and a couple pounds of C-4. It will scatter radioactivity over a wide area and render it uninhabitable.

The Israelis recently intercepted one individual carrying such a device in a backpack trying to enter Jerusalem via Ramallah.

28 posted on 10/22/2001 7:52:43 AM PDT by Magician
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Periodically the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has staged mock attacks against facilities, and the faux intruders won half the time--

Shouldn't the failed faux intruders have died? Do the defenders use mock defenses? Mock bullets?

29 posted on 10/22/2001 7:54:15 AM PDT by packrat01
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I heard on the Discovery Channed just the other night that Russia...at one time...had some 130 suitcase bombs. Though there is no solid proof that any are missing....they said that around 40 were supposedly unaccounted for.

They said a suitcase bomb like this could cause as much damage as the nuclear bomb in Hiroshima. Also that the bombs could be carried in a back pack.

38 posted on 10/22/2001 8:25:12 AM PDT by Aerial
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Bomb Mecca if they do!
40 posted on 10/22/2001 8:27:16 AM PDT by Robert Lomax
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You may want to see the following thread by Uncle Bill:
OSAMA BIN LADEN SAID TO HAVE NUKES - Terrorists With Suitcases
41 posted on 10/22/2001 8:29:49 AM PDT by InfraRed
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What we know:

Suitcase nukes require a LOT of maintenance on a very frequent basis in order to work.

Therefore, if Osama HAD a suitcase nuke in 1998, as Yousef Bodansky was claiming, then he has a somewhat radioactive pile of junk today.

If Osama has a suitcase bomb NOW, we will know about it in the very near future, because he doesn't have a lot of time to use it.

45 posted on 10/22/2001 8:44:04 AM PDT by Poohbah
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Even if it can fit in a suitcase, the airline will lose it.
46 posted on 10/22/2001 8:44:54 AM PDT by wny
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