Posted on 10/23/2001 8:39:39 AM PDT by spycatcher
Pre-Islamic Arabia's religion was one of superstition. Belief in jinns (genies), curse casting, magic stones, totems was the norm - and it was against this background that Allah arose. Although the Quran is claimed to be a heavenly writing with no earthly source, evidence of these very sorts of cultural influence is found in such places as Suras 55, 72, 113 and 114.
Animism, the belief that spirits inhabit rocks, trees and other elements was also very commonplace. Some of these stones were venerated and used as a focal point for the worship of a particular tribal god. No surprise, Muhammad's family had just such a stone for their own tribe - a black stone, in fact, that they kept at the Kabah (where the tribal idols were set up). The pagan rites of bowing toward Mecca, making a pilgrimage to the Kabah, running around it seven times, kissing it, then running to the river to throw stones at the devil all found there way into Islamic practice.
The final piece of the puzzle was in found in the religion of the Sabeans, an astral religion that worshipped the moon god and planned their religious rites around the lunar calendar. One such rite was fasting from crescent moon to crescent moon, a practice which would also be adopted by Muhammad.
If these things were not present before Muhammad received them from Allah (who himself is the moon god of Muhammad's tribe), why did Muhammad not have to explain what those words meant in the Quran? How would people have known who Allah was? ( or: what a jinn was? what the Kabah was? what the word Islam meant? etc.). Even the word "Islam" which many believe to mean "submission" was not an original word. In Arabic it was a secular term that denoted the strength and bravery of a desert warrior (a definition that accurately reflects the war-like tribes that founded Islam with bloodshed).
The Moon God
"Allah" is from the compound Arabic word "al-ilah" or in english "the god". Allah was known before Muhammad's time without a doubt. His name has been found in pre-islamic writings and other archeological finds. At the Kabah in Mecca over 350 gods were worshipped, but it was built especially for the chief deity - the moon god. Allah was the personal title of the moon god. Allah was married to the sun goddess. They produced three daughters, whose worship Muhammad would later make the mistake of condoning. The crescent moon symbol of Arabia came from this god.
Muhammad's family revered this particular god, and it is this idol that Muhammad declared to be the only true god. So, Allah - far from being the revealed God of the Bible as Muhammad would have us believe - is nothing more than an amplified pagan idol. Muhammad did not re-make the pagan god, he simply removed the lower deities from the rites of worship. That is why he never had to explain who Allah was. By definition, an idol converted in the 7th century into a new god cannot be the sama God revealed thousands of years earlier to Biblical prophets!
So where in scripture does one find Lilith ? You might want to read this piece Lilith
Like so much she is a lie from the pit of hell.
Spoken like the true moral relativist that you are! There is decernable truth and evil in the world, and every human regardless of their birth location has the capacity and duty to understand these. Muslims who embrace the taking of innocent life for the sake of their "Religion" have made their choice and demonstrate that they are little but "humanist" dupes who have no place a God's table. Theirs will be a terrible and swift judgement.
Any philosophies or "religions" which turn a person away from the Almighty God and His Son are ultimately inspired by demons.
Take it or leave it.
It's your eternal life.
That demon-goddess apocryphal wench Lilith isn't worshipped by Christians or Jews at all, but by ex-Christian pagan new-agers. And as I mentioned before, Christians only adopted the *date* of Christmas so converted pagans could just use that traditional date to worship Christ instead of their old gods No one knows when Jesus was actually born so one date is as good as any other. And of course Jesus' resurrection is what is celebrated on Easter by real Christians. The pagan fertility rite isn't performed and the Easter bunny isn't worshipped.
Modern liberal Christianity is now being corrupted and merging with the New-Age muck though, so you may have been confused by those "Christians."
Check out the Spiritual Counterfeit Project to see what I mean
AmishDude, You forgot method #8:
...My point was simply that the religious indoctrintation of one's youth, overwhelmingly determines the religious faith of one's adulthood.
If you have no proof, underline.
ORH
Reminds me of the Book of Mormon, IMHO written by another false prophet
And the ever popular: When losing an argument, make the font size bigger!
Very funny. You poor simple yokels ought to be grateful for the epistemological handholds OWK provides you as he attempts to illumine your stumbling attempts to think and express yourselves coherently.
Myself, I'm of the opinion that he ought to take Jesus' advice and 'shake the dust from his feet'.
I gave up suffering fools gladly decades ago.
Islam claims the terrorists who crashed airplanes into buildings full of innocent people on September 11 were heroes. Judaism and Christianity claim that Islam has it all wrong.
Sorry, kid. Moral relativism perished at 10:29 am EDT on Tuesday, September 11, 2001.
And another floppy-shoed opinion stumbles onto the stage, to loose the equivalent of a rubber chicken from his slack intellectual bow.
Doctor, I am wounded.... I fear this one may be fatal.
Just as Chrisitianity claimed the crusaders who raped and plundered their way through Islam were heroes.
The difference between you and I... Is that I condemn both as evil.
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