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NTSB Chief: Crash Probably Accident
Associated Press ^ | November 12, 2001 | By RON FOURNIER, AP White House Correspondent

Posted on 11/12/2001 11:30:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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To: sinkspur
What you say is waayy too moderate and reasoned for this board today. My God, why do people want to believe the worst when there is no evidence to support that at this time!!

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The government is lying to us! Get a grip, people.

21 posted on 11/12/2001 12:16:51 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: sinkspur
Not likely that this was terrorism. More likely that it was catastrophic engine failure

LOL!

Try telling that to the families of the dead.

New Yorkers can smell a con a mile away.

If your objective is to totally destroy commercial aviation, keep posting preposterous statements like that one!

Whoooooo!

22 posted on 11/12/2001 12:20:09 PM PST by Rome2000
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To: MeeknMing
I wonder how many times we will hear this word reported "as FACT" in the next 24 hour news-cycle (and I for one am not buying it sight unseen):

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23 posted on 11/12/2001 12:27:01 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: SerpentDove
>>The sky is falling! The sky is falling! The government is lying to us! Get a grip, people.<<

On the contrary, unless you've had your head where it doesn't belong for the las few years, the government has lied and covered up (remember Waco, etc?)

Go back to sleep.

24 posted on 11/12/2001 12:29:40 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Time Traveller
>>Let's all call it an accident. It's plausible isn't it? It will infuriate Ben Laden if he is responsible. If another "accident" occurs next week, then the least of our worries will be looking foolish.<<

One simple reason: I've had it with bullsh*t. I don't DEAL in bullsh*t.

25 posted on 11/12/2001 12:31:02 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: John H K
LOL! Good for you!
26 posted on 11/12/2001 12:36:24 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: SerpentDove
Why would terrorists blow up a plane full of Haitians when they had their choice of planes loaded with Americans?
27 posted on 11/12/2001 12:38:31 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Make that Haitians and Dominican's.
28 posted on 11/12/2001 12:41:19 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: sinkspur
But how do we know that the engine did not have help in failing catastrophically?
29 posted on 11/12/2001 12:42:14 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Native American Female Vet; Rome2000; sinkspur; Trust but Verify; Pharmboy; Lumberjack; John H K...
Thanks for that great post there, friend!

Let me share something withyou all here.

A buddy of mine sent me an e-mail about this crash. Here it is:

HERE WE GO AGAIN !!
BET ITS A SAM. . .SURE LOOKS LIKE IT TO ME !
I JUST DUMPED LOTS OF STOCK. . .
I sent him back an e-mail asking him to be more specific as to why he suspected a Surface to Air Missile. Here's his reply:

PLANE'S MOTOR CAME DOWN IN A BOAT AT A GAS STATION - MOTOR HAS A HOLE IN IT ---- NOT THE BOAT'S MOTOR. . .
Here’s his last note he sent me a little while ago:

NOW I'M PRETTY SURE - 3 IN 4 CHANCE IN MY OPINION .
JUST HEARD AN EYE-WITNESS SAY HE SAW A SMALL EXPLOSION KNOCK THE
WING OFF .. MEDIA CANT SAY IT'S A SAM FOR FEAR OF A PANIC !
I'M TALKIN JUST A SMALL HAND HELD SAM SHOT FROM ONE'S BACKYARD...

This is a bit scary, folks. Anybody else seeing this same thing??? I just have a hard time believing this is a deliberate act, but sure wanna know. Please RSVP. Thanks!
30 posted on 11/12/2001 12:43:09 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: jwalsh07
Practice? (And I'm not being flippant.)

Conversely, if this is an accident and the engine did fail on its own, how do we differntiate between sabotage and something like American buying cheapie counterfeit airplane parts, maybe Chinese-made for example.

32 posted on 11/12/2001 12:45:35 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: SerpentDove
Now what was that again? Did you say this was an "accident?"
33 posted on 11/12/2001 12:45:39 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
I heard twenty eye witnesses this morning giving contemporaneous descriptions of whatr happened. Not one word about a SAM. Not even a hint.
35 posted on 11/12/2001 12:49:38 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Why would terrorists blow up a plane full of Haitians when they had their choice of planes loaded with Americans?

Agree that this doesn't seem like an obvious target. I know the Koran paints a pretty broad brush, commanding muslims to kill all Jews and Christians, but this plane doesn't seem like a particularly high-value target for the raghead contingent, unless it was just a target-of-opportunity for some random islamo in the ground crew.

36 posted on 11/12/2001 12:51:29 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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To: MeeknMing
>>Let's all call it an accident. It's plausible isn't it? It will infuriate Ben Laden if he is responsible. If another "accident" occurs next week, then the least of our worries will be looking foolish.<<

Read the whole post.

:-)

37 posted on 11/12/2001 12:51:42 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: Rome2000
a terrorist has apparently succeded in checking a bomb aboard an airbus and killing 260+ people.

You're a hysterical idiot.

There is NO evidence that a bomb blew up that plane.

You can distrust the government all you want, but experienced airline people are all saying that catastrophic engine failure is likely, since these GE CF-6 engines have had problems for ten years.

38 posted on 11/12/2001 12:52:14 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: MeeknMing
Let me see if I have this right. Your e-mail buddy (who is not an eyewitness) is 75% sure it was a SAM, but NO EYEWITNESS reports seeing a SAM. Do you see a problem with this?
39 posted on 11/12/2001 12:53:23 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: sinkspur
How many airliners have exploded due to these CF-6 engines? That's sort of the bottom line on the prior probability of that explanation, isn't it?
40 posted on 11/12/2001 12:54:03 PM PST by Clinton's a rapist
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