Posted on 11/22/2001 8:41:04 PM PST by redrock
I'm at the point where I can't post a lifetime of study, analysis, and experience in answer to every kook. It's an impossibility. There are times when I dismiss a piece, label it, them move on.
On another subject. You still have that tooth? You've been scarce around here. Does that mean you've become respectable?
Bob
redrock
Have you ever thought about an America where Fully Informed Juries exist? The jury is the final arbiter of which laws are worthy of enforcing, but the right to a jury has been perverted into the "right to a jury where they all agree with the judge, or they are excused, or their verdicts are set aside."
Why does he demand that search warrants be served without notice to the object of the search?
These aren't the actions of a person concerned about my civil rights.
L
Well, for starters, you might consider the following . . .
"Ideas are more powerful than guns. If we don't let our people have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
--Josef Stalin
Try driving fast down a sparsely traveled highway on a clear day with your own car on roads you paid for. You'll get pulled over and have to pay even more money to the state (as if gas taxes, tolls, driver's license fees, etc... aren't enough). That's if your lucky. In some states, you can go to jail for exceeding the speed limit by a certain amount.
Try starting a new business. You have to worry about literally hundreds of thousands of laws and regulations. There are so many rules, you're bound to be guilty of something, so your only hope is to not piss off the 'powers that be'. Even if you be a "chump" and succeed in this, there is always the problem of civil lawsuits by parasitic ambulance chasers who can and will take everything you own.
Try carrying a gun. Here in Florida, it is a FELONY to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. It's also illegal to carry openly, even with a permit. Simply exercising your rights is enough to ruin your life. It's even worse in other states.
Try talking about God in a public school. Expect to be suspended if you're a student, or have "child services" called to investigate.
Try talking about the Constitution to anyone in "authority". They'll look at you like you are crazy if they don't laugh in your face.
The list is endless, and anyone could go on with more examples. But the bottom line is that Freedom has been an extremely rare thing throughout history, and ours is slipping away under the guise of "majority rule" and "safety". Tyrants and traitors have infiltrated the government. This has been going on for years and years. And like a cancer, they are destroying America.
Is the ballot box the answer? Maybe, but how is the ballot box the answer when your vote-- the vote of a self sufficient man or woman-- is cancelled out by an illegal immigrant, or an illiterate drug addict, or a welfare slut?
There ,I've settled your debate.
The only difference between dems and reps is that dems want to turn up the heat more than the reps do. Both have the same goal - boiling us frogs. It isn't a dem Att Gen and CONgress cranking out laws that control us but won't stop a repeat of Sept 11. Or a dem president making these executive orders.
Bravo.....
...now then....how do we convice the large section of the US Populace that, in the hopes of them believing this will kick them outside of their "Comfort Zone" ?? ?? ??
I happen to agree with Mr. Smith. The Treaty of Versailles made Hitlers rise to power inevitable IMO. When American elected that nasty little cripple Roosevelt into power (along with a Democrat majority) WWII also became inevitable.
When Hitler was elected, inflation in the Weimar Republic was something like 800% annually because of the ridiculous conditions imposed on Germany by France, England, and America. No wonder the German people voted en mass for old Uncle Adolf.
I know you have spent a lifetime looking into these kinds of things Bob, and just for the record I have spent a good amount of my life looking long and hard at the kinds of things Mr. Neil posits in this article as well.
If Bill Clinton had been given anything remotely resembling the PATRIOT Act under damn near any circumstances I can imagine, there would be outright armed rebellion going on right now and you know it.
But somehow because GWB (a man you yourself have characterized as being wholly in over his head BTW) we are all supposed to relax and believe that everything will be fine. Well my friend, I ain't buying it.
Things are going to get a whole lot uglier in America before they get any better. It won't be long before there are 'respectable' voices crying out for some 'temporary internment facilities' for a whole bunch of brown people who happen to profess their faith to a certain religion if you get my drift. Perhaps we will pass a law making them wear a yellow crescent on their sleeves or something.....
Thanks for asking about the tooth. We are now working on number three and each one gets progressively easier although the Tooth Fairy pays a heck of a lot better than in my day.
Take care of yourself Bob.
Regards,
Bruce
One small case in point, if he is still not convinced that Bush won the election in light of all we know now, then he is just choosing to be ignorant so he can rant. He is a lot of noise, period!
What they will "get" is more airplanes launched into buildings - - or anthrax, or truck bombs, or smallpox, or "dirty" bombs, or suitcase nukes....
When they send us to the camps, you tell me I was wrong.
Okay. This guy is a loon. Who are "they", and why are we all going to "camps".
Sorry, Neil. No sale.
Neil Smith makes a whole lot of good points. And he is dead on about the potential for abuses and erosion of basic civil liberties. He is right to sound the alarm. But to paint a guy like George Bush as a Hitler-like fascist who is hungry for power just doesn't wash.
I do accuse him, his father, and their vile cronies and allies of making totalitarian plans for us and then waiting, just like vultures on a cactus, for some horrific event that would appear to justify them.
Smith is a paranoid, tin-foil mad hatter if there ever was one. A complete loon.
What, exactly, would be the motivation for Bush and his "vile cronies" to foist all this evil on America? Money? Power?
Gimme a break.
Most Americans won't believe it until someone they love is dragged away kicking and screaming.
If the lessons of Russia, China, Cambodia, and Germany are any example, most people won't believe it even then.
L
This administration has blown gaping holes in what's left of our constitution. Under the guise of his phony "war on terrorism" (Why aren't we bombing the KLA in Kosovo and Macedonia?), Bush, with the help of his accessories in congress, has put into place the instrumentation for our future oppression. He is the closest thing to a dictator we seen since FDR. His failure to learn the lessons of history (governments have a way of enslaving their citizens) and his contempt for the Bill of Rights is truly shocking.
I fear for this once-great Republic.
- Un-PC
Good!
Are you having any success Libertarianizing the GOP? Do you expect Trent Lott or George W. Bush or Arlen Specter to ever publicly state, "You, the people, in your role as jurors, have the right and responsibility to rule any laws we pass that may be repugnant to you as de facto null and void by refusing to convict anyone accused of violating them?"
Oh, puleeze.
This guy is actually more an anarchist, and to the left of Nadine Strasser of the ACLU.
George Bush "totalitarian"?? HELLO...
As far as my relaxing, I have a few people who would like to kill me. The next article in the series will make me even less liked by liberals and the Bushs. My stuff wasn't banned of the Federal ISP by the Clinton White House because I'm relaxed.
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