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To: Outlaw76
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear ! The misinformation, that appears on FR, is mind boggling !

Circe was NOT " a goddess of truth ", in any way, shape, manner, nor form. Circe was an enchantress, a sorceress, a witch who turned men into pigs ( swine ) , and is a pivitol charater in the ancient Homeric story of Odysseus, and know as " THE ODYSSEY ". The Romans took and adapted that story, and renamed the hero ULYSSES.

The word circle, does come from the same Latin root as her name. Circe, in ancient Rome, was also considered to be the goddess who rules of the stars, that ruled over man's fate. The circle, was a term used in referrence to structures like the Colliseum, which began existance as the site of funnerial games, in honor of the dead. Circus is another Latin word, which shares the same root and purpose.

Woods, from early Medevial times,in England, France, and Germany were indeed considered to be " evil " and a place where demons and others from the spirit world lived. Again, you are proving your lack of knowledge, by claiming otherwise. Why else do so many " bad " things happen, in fair tales, in woods ?

Yes, kirk does translate into church. It is Scotts, as well as Icelandic, and NOT Celtic, in any way. It specifically means a Presbetyrian church ( Church of Scotland ) and NOT just any church.

492 posted on 11/27/2001 10:18:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Actualy I didn't state that the word was Celtic in origin.

The word Kirk is the name for church. It is a (celtic)phonetical representation of the word church.('ch' has a 'k' sound.. kinda.) The interpretation you speak of (that being pagan) is not Scottish at all, rather the reverse. etymologicaly speaking it is a chicken egg thing, Kirk = Church. The name was also atributed to the godess Circe who was supposedly a godess of truth and is represented by a circle.

Kirk however does represent pretty much all churches. Now, "The Kirk" is a different matter all together. That is the Church of Scotland. The general use of the term "The Kirk" is pretty much a slang term. For a while there where no other churches alowed to opperate in Scottland, so all Kirk's were Presbyterian. Another Chicken/Egg thing.

Circe Was indeed all that you say insofar as Homer's Odesy is concerned. She was an enchantress and daughter of Hellios. She had a son with Odysseus. (By the way, all of you who think Potter is bad, protect your kids from anything written by Homer... Odysseus worked with Hermes to counter Circe's spells.)As far as her being considered the goddess of truth, that came from a pagan site and I can't find anything to substantiate that. Some wierdo thinks she is anyhow. I appologize for not looking into that farther.

The point of the post is pretty strait forward though, The word Church comes from Circe.
I will also add the word 'Religion' is just as bad:Webster's Collegiate Dictionary traces the word back to an old Latin word religio meaning "taboo, restraint." A deeper study discovers the word comes from the two words re and ligare. Re is a prefix meaning "return," and ligare means "to bind;" in other words, "return to bondage."

So, Have fun going to Circe in order to return to bondage!

493 posted on 11/28/2001 7:47:47 AM PST by Outlaw76
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